A New Startup Wants to Edit Human Embryos

Manhattan Genomics, a New York-based startup, is reviving the debate on gene-edited babies with the aim of eradicating genetic disease and alleviating human suffering by editing embryos at the earliest stage of development. The company's stated goal is to correct harmful mutations that cause serious diseases like Huntington's disease, cystic fibrosis, and sickle cell anemia.

Cofounder Cathy Tie, a former Thiel fellow who left college at 18 to start her own company, believes that editing human embryos will make the idea more acceptable in society. However, experts warn of unintended "off-target" effects and ethical concerns surrounding gene editing, which could lead to unforeseen consequences such as cancer.

The company has assembled a team of prominent scientists, including Norbert Gleicher, an IVF doctor who frequently asks why it's not yet possible to "improve" or "fix" embryos. Manhattan Genomics plans to focus on genes with the strongest correlation with disease and will start by testing its technology in mice before moving on to monkeys.

However, many genetic diseases are caused by spontaneous mutations that cannot be detected with current preimplantation genetic diagnosis methods. This raises questions about when gene editing should be used โ€“ only for those couples who have little or no chance of having a genetically related baby that does not inherit a serious monogenic condition?

Jeffrey Kahn, director of the Berman Institute of Bioethics at Johns Hopkins University, has concerns about heritable gene editing bypassing academic research and being taken up by tech startups. He recommends caution and incremental progress, citing the need for societal dialogue before determining whether to permit human embryo editing.

As the debate around human embryo editing continues, Manhattan Genomics' efforts highlight both the potential benefits and risks of this technology. While some see it as a revolutionary solution to genetic disease, others express concerns about its ethics and safety.
 
I'm still trying to wrap my head around this whole gene-edited babies thing ๐Ÿคฏ. I mean, on one hand, can you imagine being able to erase the genes that cause your kid to have a debilitating illness? It's like a dream come true for many parents out there ๐Ÿ˜”. But at the same time, I'm getting these major feels of unease when I think about all the unknowns and unintended consequences ๐Ÿ’€.

I was talking to my aunt who has sickle cell anemia (she actually beat the odds and didn't pass it on to her kids ๐Ÿ™Œ) and she's been saying that this tech could be a game-changer for families like hers. But at what cost? Is it really fair to subject embryos to all this editing just so we can "fix" them without thinking about the bigger picture ๐Ÿค”?

I guess what I'm trying to say is, we need to take our time and have some serious conversations about what's going on here ๐Ÿ’ฌ. We can't just let tech startups run wild with this kind of power ๐Ÿ”ฅ.
 
I'm still not convinced that gene-edited babies are the answer ๐Ÿค”. I mean, have we really thought through the long-term effects? We're talking about editing embryos here, which is already a pretty radical idea. And then you throw in the risk of "off-target" effects and cancer... yeah, that's a big deal. Not to mention the fact that many genetic diseases are caused by spontaneous mutations that can't be detected with current methods ๐Ÿคฏ.

And let's not forget about the ethics. This is like playing God, right? We're talking about altering the fundamental building blocks of human life without even understanding all the consequences. I'm happy to see Manhattan Genomics taking a cautious approach and testing their tech in mice before moving on to monkeys, but that's still just a drop in the bucket ๐Ÿœ.

We need to have a lot more discussions about this stuff before we start making decisions that could impact future generations. It's not just about whether or not it works; it's about what kind of world do we want to create? ๐ŸŒŽ
 
The more I think about gene-edited babies, the more I realize that we're not just talking about fixing a disease, we're talking about playing with the very fabric of human life ๐Ÿคฏ. It's like asking if we should try to fix a broken record by replacing the broken part, or if it's better to just accept the imperfections and live with them.

And what does that say about our society? Are we willing to take on the responsibility of altering the fundamental building blocks of human life without fully understanding the long-term consequences? ๐Ÿค” It's like asking if we should be tinkering with a car engine without knowing how it'll affect the entire vehicle.

The question is, where do we draw the line between progress and tampering with nature? And what does that say about our values as a society? Do we value efficiency over ethics? Or are there other considerations at play here that I'm not seeing ๐Ÿค”.
 
I'm still shook by the idea of gene-edited babies ๐Ÿคฏ. I mean, think about it - we're talking about editing embryos before they even exist! It's like playing God, right? ๐Ÿ™ But at the same time, can you blame Manhattan Genomics for wanting to help people live longer and healthier lives? My cousin has cystic fibrosis and it's heartbreaking to see them suffer. I get why they want to do this.

But the thing is, we just don't know enough about gene editing yet ๐Ÿค”. What if there are unintended consequences? Like, have you seen those stories about cancer being caused by CRISPR? ๐Ÿšจ We need more research and dialogue before we can even think about doing this on a human scale. And what about all the genetic diseases that aren't even related to specific genes? How do we even begin to address those? It's like, we're trying to solve a puzzle with too many missing pieces.

I guess what I'm saying is that I'm all for exploring new ways to help people, but let's take this one step at a time ๐ŸŒŸ. We need to be careful and make sure we're not rushing into something that could have unintended consequences.
 
๐Ÿ’ก I'm low-key excited about Manhattan Genomics' mission to eradicate genetic diseases with gene-edited babies ๐Ÿคฏ! If they can make it work without any major hiccups ๐Ÿ˜ฌ, this could be a game-changer for humanity. On the other hand, I'm also getting some major concerns from experts about off-target effects and ethics ๐Ÿค”... Can't we just have both? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ Like, shouldn't we at least try to explore all options before dismissing them completely? ๐Ÿคฏ Moreover, what about those spontaneous mutations that are still a mystery? How do we even tackle those? ๐Ÿงฌ It's like, they're saying "Hey, let's fix babies!" but what if it's not that simple? ๐Ÿ˜…
 
๐Ÿค” I'm all for advancing tech that can help people live longer & healthier lives! ๐ŸŒŸ Gene editing could be super powerful if done right. But we gotta make sure we're careful & think through the long-term effects. Those "off-target" effects can be super scary ๐Ÿ˜ฑ.

Think of it like building a bridge โ€“ you wanna get to the other side, but you don't wanna hurt anyone or anything in the process ๐ŸŒ‰. Maybe instead of editing embryos right off the bat, we should start with tiny animals like mice ๐Ÿญ and then move on to humans? That way we can test & refine our tech before it hits the real world ๐Ÿ“Š.

I also wonder if we're focusing too much on gene editing itself & not enough on other solutions for genetic diseases ๐Ÿค. Maybe there's a way to help people live healthier lives without messing with their genes ๐ŸŒฟ.

This is all so complicated! ๐Ÿ’ก But I'm down for having a convo about it and figuring out how we can make this tech safe & effective ๐Ÿ’ฌ
 
this whole thing is just so... complicated ๐Ÿคฏ you gotta wonder if we're ready for this kinda power in our hands. gene editing is like holding the future in our fingers, but what does that even mean? it's like playing god, but instead of a big fluffy beard and a lightning bolt, it's a petri dish and some fancy science ๐Ÿ”ฌ

i think it's crazy to just start messing with embryos without really thinking about the long game ๐Ÿ“š. we're talking about changing the fundamental building blocks of life here! what if we make things worse instead of better? ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™€๏ธ and then there's the issue of who gets to decide when and where this tech is used - is it just for couples who have a high risk of passing on serious diseases, or is it available to anyone who wants it?

i'm not sure i trust these startups to be responsible stewards of this technology ๐Ÿค. they're pushing the boundaries of what's possible, but are they thinking about the potential consequences? shouldn't we be having more conversations about how we want to proceed with this? ๐Ÿ’ฌ
 
omg u guys i just read about this new startup in NYC trying to edit babies genes like they're vbs ๐Ÿคฏ so they can get rid of diseases like haiting's lol but experts are all like "wait no dont do that cuz it could go wrong" ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™€๏ธ and its like yeah bc what if u mess up the genes and make cancer or sumthin ๐Ÿ˜ฑ i mean idk about me but i cant even imagine havin a kid with some super rare disease cuz of some lab experiment gone wrong... anywayz im kinda curious how they plan to test it out on monkeys first ๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’‰
 
I'm all for gene-edited babies, but only if they get an A in Embryo Engineering 101 ๐Ÿคฃ. Seriously though, this tech has the potential to save countless lives, but we gotta be careful not to play God... or at least, not yet ๐Ÿ˜‚. I mean, imagine being able to edit out all the bad genes and just leave the good ones โ€“ it's like a genetic makeup makeover! ๐Ÿ’…โ€โ™€๏ธ But with great power comes great responsibility, so let's make sure we're doing this right and having some serious conversations about ethics and safety before we start tampering with nature ๐ŸŒฟ.
 
Gene-edited babies? Sounds like a bad idea... bad enough for me ๐Ÿ˜‚. I mean, can you imagine having a kid who's basically a super-genome edited to be perfect? "Hey, son, why did the world need to have 17 chromosomes?" ๐Ÿคฃ. But seriously, the risks are real โ€“ cancer, off-target effects, and whatnot. Like, don't we want our kids to have some character flaws just for fun?

And I love how this startup is trying to solve genetic diseases like crazy. Like, Huntington's disease? Can't we just... teleport patients to a different dimension where there's no sickle cell anemia? ๐Ÿ’ฅ Okay, maybe not that easy.

The debate around this is on point though. We need to talk about ethics and safety before we start playing God with embryos ๐Ÿค”. I mean, let's get the experts in a room and have a serious chat โ€“ no pun intended ๐Ÿ˜‚. Maybe we can find a middle ground where we don't completely ruin human life but also don't play fast and loose with gene editing.

What do you guys think? Should we be tampering with our DNA like it's a DIY kit or what? ๐Ÿค”
 
I'm not sure if I should be excited or terrified about this. Gene editing babies sounds like science fiction, but at the same time, how can we not try? ๐Ÿค” The idea of eradicating genetic diseases is life-changing, but it's also super complicated. What if we make things worse than they are now? ๐Ÿ˜ฌ Have we thought this through? I mean, what about all the other factors that contribute to disease, like environment and lifestyle? Shouldn't we be focusing on those too?

And then there's the ethics thing... ๐Ÿค I get why people are worried. It feels like we're playing God here, tampering with human life in ways we don't fully understand. But at the same time, isn't it better to try and give people a chance to live without pain and suffering? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ I guess what I'm saying is that this is all super messy and we need to be careful about how we approach it.

It's interesting that scientists like Norbert are pushing for gene editing because they feel like it can't wait. Like, why not now when you have the chance? ๐Ÿ’ช But then there's experts like Jeffrey who say we need to slow down and think this through. I kinda get both sides of it. ๐Ÿค”
 
Ugh, can't believe they're trying to use gene-edited babies like some kind of magic pill ๐Ÿ™„. Like, what even is the point of making embryos if we can't guarantee that they won't turn into cancer or something? ๐Ÿคฏ And don't even get me started on the idea that this will just bypass actual academic research and let tech startups run wild with their "expert" opinions ๐Ÿ’ป. It's like, hello, scientists have been studying genetics for years and we're just gonna leapfrog to human trials without even testing it in mice first? ๐Ÿœ Not buying it.

And what about all the genetic diseases that are caused by spontaneous mutations? Like, how are they supposed to fix that with gene editing? ๐Ÿค” It's not like we can just magically detect those kinds of mutations and then "improve" the embryos. Give me a break. This whole thing is just getting too out of hand for my taste ๐Ÿ˜’.
 
I'm all about embracing innovation, but when it comes to gene-edited babies, I gotta think twice ๐Ÿค”. I mean, think about it - we're talking about messing with the fundamental building blocks of human life here! It's like playing God, you know? And yeah, I get that genetic diseases are a massive problem, and if we can find a way to eradicate them, that'd be amazing ๐Ÿ’ซ. But at what cost?

I'm worried about those "off-target" effects, and how do we even measure the success rate of this stuff? It's like trying to solve a puzzle blindfolded ๐Ÿ”ฎ. And then there's the question of who gets access to this tech - only those couples with "serious monogenic conditions"? That raises so many questions about accessibility and equality ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ.

I'm all for pushing boundaries and exploring new frontiers, but we need to take it slow and steady here. We gotta have that societal dialogue, get everyone on the same page before we start tampering with human DNA ๐Ÿ’ฌ. Can't just let tech startups dictate the course of our lives ๐Ÿšซ.
 
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