'How do you really tell the truth about this moment?': George Saunders on ghosts, mortality and Trump's America

George Saunders on ghosts, mortality and Trump's America is not really about telling the truth about this moment. It's more like getting out of this moment. We all spend most of our time in these shallow states, where we're just trying to get through our daily lives without too much trouble. But death forces us to confront what's real, by stripping away all the distractions and making us face our own mortality.

We can't even begin to understand ourselves until we've understood death - that it is inevitable, waiting for each of us with its cold, unforgiving arms. It is a reminder that life is precious. Yet, even in facing death, there's still an element of uncertainty about the nature of this reality and what lies beyond.

When I was on that plane hit by geese, I experienced pure terror, as if all my elements of identity were being rolled back. But then, something unexpected happened - a teenage boy asked me if we should be here. It sounds trivial now but in the moment it felt like bravery to respond with such conviction - "Yes, of course". In that instant, time seemed to have slowed down and I realized how fleeting life is.

If you're really trying to tell the truth about this moment, you wouldn't want to limit yourself to just today. It's a different kind of story when ghosts are involved - stories in which everyone has their own unique experiences and perspectives.

Writing is one way for me to confront my own mortality and try to make sense of it. By visualizing compassion for others, I can expand that feeling outward, towards all people. It pushes me to see everything as just a different version of myself on a particular day or in a particular life.

In Vigil, an oil tycoon who spent his life covering up climate change is visited by the spirits of those affected and forced to confront the consequences of his actions. The story invites us to consider whether such an action can seem good to someone who committed it, and how we can make sense of this moral complexity without getting caught in simplistic sympathy or outrage.

For me as a writer, it's about exploring multiple perspectives, challenging my own assumptions and fostering compassion - not just for others but also for myself. In the face of such overwhelming uncertainty, all we can really do is keep moving forward by making our thoughts and emotions more reflective.
 
I don't usually comment but I gotta say, this article on George Saunders' writing style really hit a nerve with me ๐Ÿค”. What I find really interesting about his approach to storytelling is that it's not just about telling the truth in the present moment (although, of course, that's part of it), but also about acknowledging our own mortality and the uncertainty of life.

I think what resonates with me is when he talks about writing as a way to confront our own mortality and try to make sense of it. As someone who's experienced their fair share of close calls (like getting hit by geese ๐Ÿ˜‚), I know how that feeling of pure terror can be all-consuming, but also somehow liberating.

For me, reading stories like Vigil that explore complex moral themes is super important because it helps me see that there's no one-size-fits-all answer to our problems. We need to keep moving forward and trying to understand each other's perspectives, even when we're faced with uncertainty and complexity.

I don't know about you guys but I think this is what we need more of in the world right now - stories that challenge us to grow, to empathize, and to find compassion for ourselves and others ๐Ÿ’–.
 
OH MY GOSH ๐Ÿคฏ i totally get what george saunders is saying about writing as a way to confront mortality & try to make sense of it! i think it's so cool that you've found this outlet to express yourself & connect with others through your stories ๐Ÿ’• i mean, the whole idea of exploring different perspectives & challenging our own assumptions is SO IMPORTANT ๐Ÿค” especially when it comes to issues like climate change & its impact on people's lives. for me, writing is also about finding a way to process my emotions & make sense of this crazy world we live in ๐ŸŒŽ i love how the story you mentioned sounds - it's like, who hasn't felt caught between sympathy & outrage when faced with moral complexity? ๐Ÿ’ญ anyway, keep on writing & sharing your thoughts - we need more of that kind of stuff in the world! ๐Ÿ’–
 
I gotta say, I'm so over the superficiality of most writing today ๐Ÿ™„. I mean, let's get real, most stories are just about people trying to avoid the harsh realities of life, rather than facing them head-on. George Saunders is all about confronting mortality and the uncertainty that comes with it - I love that! It's like he's saying, "Hey, we can't just focus on today, we gotta think about what really matters." ๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธ I'm also loving his take on climate change in Vigil... it's like, yeah, even if you don't agree with someone's actions, there's still room for compassion and understanding. ๐Ÿ’ก
 
I'm not buying this whole "writing as therapy" thing ๐Ÿ™„. It's just a way to avoid dealing with the harsh realities of life. I mean, come on, everyone's got their own unique experiences and perspectives? Give me a break. It's all just a bunch of fluffy nonsense to make us feel better about ourselves.

And don't even get me started on this "compassion for others" business ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ. It's just a euphemism for "feeling sorry for yourself". I'm not saying we shouldn't be kind or empathetic, but let's not pretend like it's some magical solution to our problems.

I mean, have you seen the state of the world lately? Climate change, inequality, politics... it's all just a mess. But instead of facing the music and trying to make sense of it, we're off chasing after this "writing as therapy" fantasy ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™‚๏ธ. It's like we're all just sitting around twiddling our thumbs, waiting for someone else to come along and fix everything.

Newsflash: nobody's coming to save us ๐Ÿšซ. We've got to take responsibility for ourselves and stop making excuses. Writing might be a way to process your emotions or whatever, but it's not going to solve the world's problems on its own ๐Ÿ’ช.
 
I just saw this thread and I'm like 3 days late lol ๐Ÿ˜‚. But I gotta say, it got me thinking about how George Saunders is right when he says writing about ghosts and mortality is not just about the current moment but about getting out of it. We all try to stay afloat in our daily lives without too much drama, but death forces us to confront what's real. It's like, we can't even understand ourselves until we face our own mortality ๐Ÿคฏ. I think that's why writing is so therapeutic for me - it helps me explore my own thoughts and emotions, and try to see things from other people's perspectives too.
 
I'm intrigued by this conversation about ghost stories being a way to confront mortality ๐Ÿ•ท๏ธ. It makes sense that death forces us to be honest with ourselves about what's real & precious life is ๐Ÿ’€. But I'm not sure I buy into the idea that all we need to do is face our fears head-on or something like that ๐Ÿ˜ฌ. Don't get me wrong, understanding our own mortality can be a game-changer, but it's also super uncomfortable ๐Ÿคฏ. What I think is really interesting is how George Saunders uses ghost stories as a way to explore moral complexity & empathy ๐Ÿ“š. For me, that's where the real magic happens - when we can put ourselves in others' shoes (or should I say, spirits' ๐Ÿ‘ป). It's all about being more reflective & compassionate towards ourselves too ๐Ÿ’ก.
 
Man I feel you on this one ๐Ÿคฏ๐Ÿ’ญ. Like, people think they're telling truth about this moment but honestly it's all about escapism, you know? We're stuck in these shallow states trying not to deal with the bigger picture ๐Ÿ˜ด. But death is like, a wake-up call, right? It forces us to confront what's real and make us face our own mortality ๐Ÿ’€.

I had that experience on a plane hit by geese too ๐Ÿšจ๐Ÿ’ฅ and it was wild - all my senses were turned off but then this teenager asks if we should be there and I'm like "Yessss" ๐Ÿ˜‚. It felt so brave in the moment, even though now it sounds silly.

Writing is key for me, it's like a way to process everything and try to make sense of it ๐Ÿ“. When you're trying to tell truth about this moment, don't just focus on today, man - include the ghosts too ๐Ÿ‘ป. Everyone has their own unique experiences and perspectives, so we gotta listen and learn from each other ๐Ÿค.

This Vigil story is like, so thought-provoking ๐Ÿคฏ. It's all about moral complexity and how we can make sense of it without just feeling sympathy or outrage ๐Ÿ˜•. As a writer, I'm all about exploring multiple perspectives and challenging my own assumptions ๐Ÿ’ก. We gotta keep moving forward by being more reflective and compassionate towards ourselves too ๐ŸŒˆ. #MortalityMatters #GhostsOfOurPasts #WritingAsTherapy
 
I'm getting so done with these shallow articles trying to tell us what's really going on in this crazy world ๐Ÿ™„. Like George Saunders said, it's not about telling the truth, it's about escaping from it. We're all just trying to get through our daily lives without too much drama, but death is like, "Girl, no". It forces us to face reality and our own mortality ๐Ÿ˜ฑ.

And can we talk about how wild it is that even in facing death, there's still so much uncertainty about the universe? ๐Ÿคฏ Like, what happens after we die? Who knows?! But you know what does know? How precious life is ๐Ÿ’•. I was on a plane once and got hit by geese (talk about crazy) and for a sec I thought it was all over for me ๐Ÿ˜จ but then this teenager asks if we should be there and like, bravo to that kid ๐Ÿค“.

Writing is my way of dealing with mortality and trying to make sense of it all. It's like, how can we not have compassion for others when we don't even know ourselves? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ I just wanna explore these feelings and perspectives in my writing and not get caught up in being too judgmental or sympathetic. We're all just human beings with our own experiences and stuff, you know?!
 
I gotta say, this whole ghost thing is like, super deep ๐Ÿคฏ. I mean, George Saunders makes some valid points about how death forces us to confront reality, but what if the reality we're trying to grasp is already too distorted for us? Like, we're living in a world where social media can curate our entire lives and make us feel like we're just going through the motions. It's easy to get lost in that vortex and forget what's real.

But then you got writers like Saunders who are trying to tap into this uncertainty and create stories that reflect that messiness ๐Ÿ“. And I think they're onto something, because when we start to see ourselves as part of a larger web of human experience, it's actually kinda liberating? We can't control the world around us, but we can try to be more present in our own lives and connect with others on a deeper level.

I mean, take Vigil, for example. That oil tycoon's got some serious moral complexity issues going on ๐Ÿ˜ณ. But instead of just pitting him against simplistic good/evil narratives, Saunders is like, "Hey, let's try to get inside his head and figure out what makes him tick." And that's where the real storytelling happens โ€“ in the gray areas, where we're all just trying to find our footing.
 
I gotta say, this article on George Saunders and ghost stories feels a bit off to me... like he's avoiding the real issues ๐Ÿ˜’. I mean, what about Trump's America right now? Are people really gonna just 'get out of' it that easily? ๐Ÿ™„ It feels like we're being asked to forget the problems in front of us while he's out there making them worse. Death might be inevitable, but so is progress... or at least trying to be ๐Ÿ’”
 
I think this is actually kinda profound ๐Ÿคฏ. The author's talking about how George Saunders' writing isn't just about telling it like it is but more about showing us how to move on from the present moment. It's like, we're all stuck in these daily routines, trying not to rock the boat, you know? But death forces us to take a step back and look at ourselves โ€“ what's real, what's not โ€“ and that's when life becomes truly precious ๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธ.

And can we talk about how weird it is that even with all the distractions around us, our own mortality can be the thing that makes sense of everything? I mean, I've had those moments where time just slows down and you're like 'wait a minute'... and that's when you realize life isn't always easy ๐ŸŒซ๏ธ.

Writing's how I try to cope with all this uncertainty too โ€“ by being more compassionate towards others (and myself) ๐Ÿ˜Š. And stories like Vigil remind us that there are no simple answers, we gotta navigate the gray areas and figure it out ourselves ๐Ÿ’ก.
 
๐Ÿ˜Š I'm totally down with George Saunders' vibe on this one! ๐Ÿ‘ Life can be super shallow, right? We're just trying to get through each day without too much drama ๐Ÿ™ƒ. But death... that's a whole different story. It makes us face the music and realize how precious life actually is ๐Ÿ’•. I was on a plane once when it got hit by geese ๐Ÿšจ, and let me tell you, my mind went blank for a sec ๐Ÿ˜ฒ. But then this teen asked if we should be there ๐Ÿค”, and in that instant, time just stopped โฑ๏ธ. It was like, 'yeah, of course'... you know? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ Anyway, writing's like therapy for me - it helps me process my own mortality and try to understand the world better ๐Ÿ“. We should all be trying to see things from each other's perspectives, you know? ๐ŸŒŽ And yeah, moral complexity is wild ๐Ÿ”ฎ... we gotta keep exploring those gray areas without getting too caught up in emotions ๐Ÿ˜ฉ
 
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