Pentagon announces it has killed four men in another boat strike in Pacific

US Military Conducts Deadly Strike on Boat Suspected of Carrying Narcotics in Pacific

In a latest development, the Pentagon announced Thursday that it has carried out another lethal strike on a boat suspected of carrying illicit narcotics, killing four men in international waters in the eastern Pacific. The operation was conducted at the direction of Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and is part of an ongoing campaign to target narco-trafficking routes.

The US southern command, based in Florida, released footage of the strike, which showed a large explosion suddenly engulfing a small boat as it sailed through the water, followed by images of the vessel on fire and dark smoke billowing into the air. The strike is the 22nd carried out by the US military against boats in the Caribbean Sea and eastern Pacific Ocean since September, when the campaign began.

The Pentagon has come under scrutiny over the legality of the strikes, with lawmakers questioning whether they are lawful under international law. In a report released earlier this week, it was found that Defense Secretary Hegseth had verbally directed the military to "kill them all", raising concerns about the rule of law. Despite this, an impeachment effort against Hegseth is unlikely to succeed.

The latest strike has sparked controversy over whether those on board were legitimate combatants or simply desperate survivors clinging to wreckage. US lawmakers, including Senator Jim Himes and Senator Tom Cotton, have differing views on the matter. While some argue that the footage shows individuals actively engaged in combat activities, others believe it is clear that the two survivors were in no condition to engage in such activities.

Experts, however, overwhelmingly reject the Pentagon's framing of the situation as an "armed conflict". According to Rebecca Ingber, a professor at Cardozo law school and former state department legal adviser, killing someone who has been shipwrecked is "manifestly unlawful".
 
๐Ÿค” I just read about the US military striking down a boat in the Pacific suspected of carrying narcotics. Four guys lost their lives in that strike... ๐Ÿšฃโ€โ™‚๏ธ it's sad. I don't really understand all the rules around this stuff, but from what I see, it looks like they might've killed people who were just trying to survive after their boat sank. That doesn't seem right to me... ๐Ÿ’”

I'm not saying we should let them get away with anything, but if you're in a lifeboat and someone is shooting at you, I guess that's an emergency situation? ๐ŸŒŠ But if there was no one actively fighting back, shouldn't they be okay? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ I don't know, it all seems kinda grey to me... ๐Ÿ˜•
 
omg what is goin on with these US military strikes ๐Ÿคฏ they're just killin people left & right in the pacific without even tryin to figure out if they're doin it legit or not. and now ppl are talkin about impeachin defense sec Pete Hegseth over him sayin 'kill them all' lol like what's next? ๐Ÿคฃ but seriously, who cares about laws when you got politicians just lookin for clicks & votes ๐Ÿ“ฐ๐Ÿ’ธ
 
man... this whole thing just got me thinking about the blurred lines between good guys and bad guys in the world of war ๐Ÿคฏ. like, what exactly makes us think that those on that boat were 'bad'? were they really, or were they just trying to survive? it's easy to say from afar, but when you're faced with a situation where your own life is at stake, do we really get to decide who's a legitimate combatant and who's just a desperate soul clinging to wreckage? ๐Ÿค” i mean, don't even get me started on the whole 'kill them all' thing... that's just cold-blooded ๐Ÿ’€. it makes me wonder if we're just perpetuating this cycle of violence without ever really stopping to think about the human cost ๐ŸŒŽ.
 
๐Ÿค” I'm not sure what's going on with these US military strikes in the Pacific. It seems like they're always targeting boats with people on board, but are we really certain they're carrying narcotics? ๐Ÿšข I mean, what if those guys were just trying to make a living at sea and got caught up in something they didn't know anything about? 4 lives lost over a boat full of people who might be innocent. It's like our military is playing a game of "good guy/bad guy" where the stakes are way too high. ๐Ÿ’” What's the point of even having international laws if we're just gonna disregard them whenever it's convenient for us? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ
 
๐Ÿค” I don't know how legit this strike really was... The footage looks sketchy, imo. It's hard to tell if those 2 survivors were even in a fight when they got hit by the bomb ๐Ÿšซ. And what about all these allegations of Defense Secretary Hegseth saying "kill them all"? If that did happen, that's straight-up war crimes, in my book ๐Ÿ˜ฑ. The Pentagon's always trying to spin things their way, but we need some real proof here before I believe it ๐Ÿ“. Sources, anyone?
 
I donโ€™t usually comment but it seems so messed up that theyโ€™re just gonna kill people without even asking if they have any rights ๐Ÿคฏ. I mean, four lives lost already and now there are gonna be more families torn apart? Itโ€™s not just about the narcotics, is it? There must be better ways to deal with this problem than resorting to violence ๐Ÿ’”.

And what really gets me is that Defense Secretary Hegseth said "kill them all" โ€“ like, what even is that? Are we supposed to believe he didnโ€™t know that was a bad idea? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ. And now thereโ€™s an impeachment effort but it seems unlikely? Like, isnโ€™t that just more of the same old mess?

I donโ€™t think it's that hard to understand โ€“ if someone is just trying to survive, they shouldn't be killed by the military ๐Ÿ’€. It's not like they're in a war zone or anything; they were just on a boat with no idea what was happening ๐ŸŒŠ.

The whole thing feels so...off โš ๏ธ. Like we should be working together as humans, not trying to kill each other over some narcotics ๐Ÿ˜”.
 
Ugh, can you believe this?! ๐Ÿ˜ฉ The US military just carried out another one of these lethal strikes without considering the consequences? I mean, we're talking about human lives here! ๐Ÿšซ Four people lost their lives in the Pacific. How many lives would be affected by all these drone strikes gone wrong? ๐Ÿคฏ

And can we talk about the Pentagon's definition of an "armed conflict"? ๐Ÿค” It's so vague and doesn't take into account the real-life consequences. We're not even talking about a traditional war here! These are just innocent people trying to survive on a boat in international waters. What if it was you or someone you love? ๐Ÿ’”

I'm seriously worried about this escalating into a major disaster ๐ŸŒช๏ธ. The fact that lawmakers can't agree on what constitutes an "armed conflict" is terrifying. And we're still debating whether it's lawful under international law? How can we trust our leaders to make decisions that affect our lives when they can't even get basic facts right? ๐Ÿ˜“

I wish experts like Rebecca Ingber would speak up more often ๐Ÿ™. We need people who understand the laws and consequences of these actions to sound the alarm before it's too late! ๐Ÿ’ฅ
 
I just saw this news about that US strike on the boat... and I'm like what's going on? Why do they need to kill people like that? I mean, wasn't it like a boat with some bad stuff on it? Can't they just arrest them or something? But then again, I guess that would be harder than just dropping bombs ๐Ÿคฏ. I was thinking about this and how we're always talking about freedom of speech and stuff, but what about freedom from violence? Does that count as a human right too?
 
๐Ÿค” this just gets crazier by the day. another 'lethal strike' in international waters with no clear definition of what's happening on that boat... are they trying to kill people or just kill people who might be carrying some contraband? ๐Ÿšข๐Ÿ”ซ honestly, if it's a question of whether those survivors were 'legitimate combatants', isn't it like saying if you're drowning and clinging to a piece of wood, do you have to put up a fight against the boat that's sinking or just hold on for dear life? ๐ŸŒŠ sounds super 'lawful' to me. btw, what's with all these '22nd strike' updates... is this some sort of scorecard we're keeping track of? ๐Ÿ˜’
 
I'm not sure why everyone's making such a big deal about this strike. I mean, if you're carrying narcotics, shouldn't you expect to get caught? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ It's not like the US military was just messing around out there in international waters. The whole thing sounds super legit to me. And yeah, maybe some of those guys on board weren't exactly fighting for their lives or anything... I'm not saying they deserved it or anything, but come on, you can't just use that as an excuse ๐Ÿค”.

I also don't get why there's so much controversy over what constitutes "armed conflict". Like, isn't the whole point of naval warfare to engage with enemy forces? If these guys were carrying narcotics, aren't they kinda like pirates or something? โš ๏ธ Just saying. And can we please stop worrying about whether some politician's words are "lawful" or not? It's just a bunch of politicians being politicians... ๐Ÿ™„
 
man this just keeps getting crazier... like, what's next? another deadly strike in the name of 'targeting narco-trafficking routes'? it's like we're in some kinda neverending nightmare ๐Ÿคฏ. and now experts are saying killing people who are already survivors clinging to wreckage is unlawful? like, come on ๐Ÿ˜’. how many more lives have to be lost over this whole thing? and what's with the 'verbal direction' from Hegseth... does that even make a difference? or is it just another way of saying 'we're gonna do whatever we want'? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ. 22 strikes already and it's only been a few months... can't wait to see how many more we'll have by the end of the year ๐Ÿ˜ฌ.
 
I'm not sure what's more concerning, the fact that they're killing people on international waters or the fact that our defense secretary is literally ordering his soldiers to "kill them all" ๐Ÿคฏ. It's like they think the rules of war don't apply to them? Newsflash: they do. And if we can't trust them to follow those rules, then what's the point of having a rule of law at all?
 
I'm really concerned about this latest US military strike... ๐Ÿค• It's like they're just throwing out their guns and firing without thinking. Four people died and it's all because of a boat carrying some stuff that might be bad for us? ๐Ÿšซ I don't think that's right. If someone's on a boat in trouble, shouldn't we try to help them instead of shooting them? ๐Ÿค And what's with the Pentagon saying they're fighting an "armed conflict"? That doesn't sound right to me... seems like a bunch of people just got killed by mistake ๐Ÿ’”
 
omg this is sooo crazy ๐Ÿ˜ฑ the footage from the strike looks super intense and you can't even say for sure what was going on those guys on the boat ๐Ÿคฏ but seriously, how do u know they were even carrying narcotics in the first place? like, wasn't it a big ol assumption by the military to start with? ๐Ÿค” and what about those survivors - did they deserve to die just 'cause they got caught up in this military op? ๐Ÿšซ i mean, we gotta ask ourselves if this is really an "armed conflict" or just another example of ppl being killed w/o due process ๐Ÿ’€
 
omg this just got me so worried about the US military's actions ๐Ÿคฏ they're literally conducting lethal strikes on boats in international waters without even asking if the people on board are legit combatants or not it's like, super questionable to me ๐Ÿค” and what's with the whole "kill them all" thing from the defense secretary? that just sounds super fishy ๐ŸŸ i mean i get that they're trying to target narco-trafficking routes but can't they do it in a way that doesn't involve taking innocent lives? ๐Ÿค
 
๐Ÿค” I'm really worried about this whole thing... like, what if those guys on the boat weren't even trying to smuggle anything? They could've just been fishermen or something. It's like that movie where they're always talking about how it's not always black and white, you know? There's gotta be some nuance here.

And can we talk about how weird this whole "kill them all" thing is? Like, what kind of boss orders their people to just eliminate everyone? Sounds like something out of a movie, but for real life. And now they're trying to say it was an accident? Come on.

It's also crazy that there are so many different opinions about this... I mean, I've seen some vids of the footage and it does look intense, but at the same time, those two guys looked like they were just trying to stay afloat. Can we not just have some basic human decency here? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ
 
I'm low-key shocked by this latest strike ๐Ÿคฏ. Like, I get that the US military wants to take down narco-trafficking routes, but four lives are just way too many ๐Ÿ’”. And what's with all these strikes in international waters? Don't they know about the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing? The fact that some lawmakers are questioning the legality of these strikes is major ๐Ÿค”. I mean, if it was my cousin on that boat... but I guess that's not a scenario we're in. The whole thing just feels like a game of "shoot first, ask questions later" ๐Ÿ˜ฌ.
 
I don't know about this... it just feels like we're playing with fire out here in the Pacific. Those guys on that boat, were they even armed? I don't think so, but now they're gone and it's all just a mess. We gotta be careful not to get too caught up in our own quest for justice. It's easy to say "kill them all" when you're sitting behind a desk, but out there on the water... that's a whole different story. And what about those two survivors? Did they even stand a chance? It just doesn't feel right, ya know? ๐Ÿค”
 
๐Ÿšจ The US military's drone strike on that boat in Pacific waters raises serious questions about their definition of 'narcotics' ๐Ÿค”. Are they targeting just anyone caught with contraband or is it people caught in the wrong place at the wrong time? ๐Ÿ’ฅ I mean, if we're talking about war, shouldn't we have a better system to determine who's a legitimate target? ๐Ÿค

What's next? US military starting 'target practice' on boats full of tourists just cruising through international waters? ๐Ÿ˜ฑ It sounds like they're playing by their own rules, not adhering to the law. That's how you fuel terrorism and get countries to start questioning your motives.

By the way, have you seen the footage from this strike? ๐Ÿ“น Those guys are either super lucky or they were really trying to stay alive. Who decides who gets killed in a 'strike' against narco-trafficking? ๐Ÿ’€ It looks like we're living in a real-life video game where the rules change every time there's a drone strike ๐Ÿšฎ.
 
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