As Mamdani begins appointing judges, study finds former cops, prosecutors set higher bail

Study Reveals Proportion of NYPD Backgrounded Judges Impacting Bail Decisions in NYC Courts

A new study has found that judges with law enforcement backgrounds are more likely to detain individuals during their first court appearances, while also setting higher bail amounts compared to those without a policing background.

Researchers analyzed nearly 70,000 New York City criminal court arraignments and categorized the presiding judges according to their professional backgrounds. They discovered that judges with law enforcement backgrounds were about four percentage points more likely to order detention than those without such backgrounds. Furthermore, when those judges set cash bail, they averaged amounts roughly one-third higher on average.

The study's findings have significant implications for efforts aimed at reducing jail populations in New York City courts. According to the researchers' estimates, replacing a single judge with an NYPD background would result in approximately 65 fewer detentions and $6 million less in imposed cash bail over a typical ten-year term. This translates to roughly seventeen years of avoided jail time, which would save taxpayers around $8.7 million in detention costs.

Conversely, the study did not find any statistically significant differences among judges with legal services or public defense backgrounds. However, it also notes that the findings have broad relevance for efforts aimed at reducing jail populations and underscores the importance of having more data-driven discussions about what happens in NYC courts.

The mayor's advisory committee on the judiciary is set to play a crucial role in shaping judicial appointments in the city. Mayor Zohran Mamdani has laid out new guidelines emphasizing transparency and professional diversity, but some concerns remain regarding the committee's opaque process and potential for rewarding political connections over merit-based appointments.

While the study highlights the importance of understanding how judges' backgrounds influence their decisions, it also acknowledges that it cannot determine whether a judge's past experience directly impacts their rulings. Additionally, factors beyond individual judicial decisions may also impact bail requests or algorithms used in risk assessments.

As the city moves forward with its efforts to increase transparency and diversity within the judiciary, Scrutinize has welcomed some of Mamdani's new measures but emphasized that more work is needed to create a truly open process. The mayor's office did not respond to requests for comment on the study or Mamdani's judicial committee.
 
I'm kinda thinking that it's wild how judges with policing backgrounds are making different decisions than those without, you feel? Like, I get why we want diverse perspectives and all, but isn't it also good to know where they're coming from? ๐Ÿค” On a school level, it reminds me of how important it is for us to understand each other's perspectives too. In class discussions, sometimes people might have different opinions because of their experiences or backgrounds. But that doesn't mean we can't learn from them and try to see things from their point of view.

I'm not saying we should just take what they say at face value, but it would be awesome if we could get more data-driven conversations like this study to help us make better decisions. And I love how the mayor's advisory committee is trying to increase transparency and diversity in the judiciary โ€“ that sounds super important! But yeah, there's still room for improvement, especially when it comes to making sure people aren't getting favored just because of connections ๐Ÿค‘.
 
I'm seeing this study come out and I gotta say, it blows my mind. Four percentage points can make a big difference in bail decisions and detentions. It's crazy that judges with law enforcement backgrounds are more likely to set higher bail amounts too ๐Ÿคฏ. This is where things get really interesting - if we could replace one judge with an NYPD background, it'd save taxpayers 65 fewer detentions and $6 million in bail over a decade. That's like, whoa ๐Ÿ’ธ. What I'm curious about is how they're going to actually implement this stuff and make sure these changes stick. Transparency and professional diversity are good starting points, but we need more than just guidelines if we wanna see real change ๐Ÿค”.
 
๐Ÿค” I'm kinda surprised by this study, you know? It shows that judges with law enforcement backgrounds are like, way more likely to detain people and set higher bail amounts. And it's not just about individual judgments, but also how many fewer detentions and bail money we can save if we had more police-free judges ๐Ÿค‘. I mean, I'm all for reducing jail populations, but at the same time, you gotta wonder if having cops as judges is really a bad thing? Maybe they're just bringing some much-needed common sense to the table? But on the other hand, what about people who've been through the system and know what it's like to be in their shoes? Do we want them being in charge of deciding whether or not you go free after one little mistake ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ. It's all kinda complicated, but I guess this study is a good starting point for the conversation ๐Ÿ˜Š
 
๐Ÿค” I'm like "ok what's going on here?" judges with law enforcement backgrounds making bail decisions and detaining people way more than others? That's wild, especially when you think about how that could be affecting communities of color ๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธ. I mean we already know there's a lot of systemic issues at play in the justice system, now it seems like even something as simple as a judge's background could be impacting those decisions... what's next? Are we gonna start policing judges too? ๐Ÿš” It just don't sit right with me that some people are getting away scot-free because of their connections ๐Ÿค‘. I'm all for transparency and diversity in the judiciary, but we need to make sure our process isn't just a bunch of lip service ๐Ÿ’โ€โ™€๏ธ.
 
I'm literally fuming about this study!!! ๐Ÿคฏ How can we trust judges who've been part of the system that's perpetually oppressing communities to make fair decisions?! It's like, don't they realize that their own biases and preconceptions are going to color their judgments?! The fact that judges with law enforcement backgrounds are more likely to detain people and set higher bail amounts is just mind-blowing... it's like a recipe for disaster! We need to be having way more data-driven conversations about this stuff, not just relying on "opposite of what we want" or whatever. And don't even get me started on the whole opaque process thing - how are we supposed to know if someone is getting appointed because they're qualified or because they're friends with the mayor?! ๐Ÿ˜ก We need transparency and accountability in every single aspect of our justice system!
 
๐Ÿค” So I was thinking about this study and how it makes sense, right? ๐Ÿ˜Š If you got a law enforcement background, you're more likely to have a "tough on crime" mindset, which could lead to setting higher bail amounts and detaining people more often ๐Ÿš”.

But what really gets me is how this impacts people's lives ๐ŸŒŽ. I mean, 65 fewer detentions and $6 million less in bail over ten years? That's a huge difference ๐Ÿ‘‰ 17 years of avoided jail time! And that's not just good for the prisoners, but also for taxpayers ๐Ÿ’ธ.

It's interesting that judges with legal services or public defense backgrounds didn't show any significant differences ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ. Maybe we need more diversity in the judiciary to make a real impact? ๐Ÿ”ต

I'm curious though - how do you think this study can inform our conversations about bail and the justice system? Should we be looking at judges' backgrounds more closely or focusing on other factors that might influence their decisions ๐Ÿค”?

Here's a simple diagram to illustrate the point:

```
+---------------+
| Judges with |
| law enforcement |
| background |
+---------------+
|
| More likely to detain
| and set higher bail
|
```

Let me know what you think! ๐Ÿค—
 
just saw this study and i'm low-key concerned about how it affects ppl in nyc ๐Ÿค”๐Ÿš” judges with law enforcement backgrounds can make a huge difference in bail decisions, but what if that's not always fair or just? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ we need to figure out how to get more diverse backgrounds in those positions so everyone gets treated equally under the law ๐Ÿ’ผ๐Ÿ’ช
 
so like, this study is crazy right? ๐Ÿคฏ it shows that judges with a policing background are more likely to detain ppl and set higher bail amounts... but here's the thing - it's not just about the cops being biased, it's also about how we approach bail reform in general. i mean, think about it - when someone's already been detained once, they're more likely to get stuck in the system and end up paying way more bail than they should be. but what if we could find ways to make that process less punitive? maybe something like community service or alternative sentencing options?

and yeah, replacing one judge with an NYPD background could save taxpayers $8.7 million over 17 years... that's some serious cash! ๐Ÿ’ธ but what about the other factors at play here? like how do we get more data on what's really going on in our courts? and can we make sure that these new guidelines for judicial appointments are actually making a difference? ๐Ÿค”
 
๐Ÿคฏ so this new study says judges with law enforcement backgrounds are more likely to detain people and set higher bail amounts? ๐Ÿš”๐Ÿ’ธ like, what's up with that? it sounds like we're paying judges who are basically cops to lock people up more often ๐Ÿค‘. i don't get why they can't just make a list of neutral qualifications for the job or something... ๐Ÿ˜•
 
omg ๐Ÿคฏ so this study is low-key revealing some crazy stuff about nyc courts! ๐Ÿš” according to it, judges with law enforcement backgrounds are more likely to detain people and set higher bail amounts compared to others... that's wild ๐Ÿ”ฅ i can see why the mayor's trying to increase transparency and diversity in the judiciary tho ๐ŸŒŸ it'd be dope to have a more open process for making appointments ๐ŸŽ‰ but yeah, more work is needed ๐Ÿค”
 
๐Ÿค” I mean, what's up with judges having law enforcement backgrounds making bail decisions? Like, you'd think they'd be all about "keeping it in the community" and setting low bail amounts... instead we get higher bail and more detentions! ๐Ÿš”๐Ÿ’ธ It's like they're saying "if you've been on the wrong side of the law before, let's throw you back into the system" ๐Ÿ‘ฎโ€โ™‚๏ธ. But hey, at least we can count on some judges to bring some real-world experience to the bench... who knows, maybe one day we'll have a judge who's an ex-con and sets really low bail amounts... that would be a first! ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ
 
idk about this one... ๐Ÿค” i mean, it's cool that they're trying to understand how judges' backgrounds affect bail decisions, but at the same time, aren't we just perpetuating a cycle of systemic bias by studying it? like, what if we're just reinforcing the idea that cops are inherently more capable of making fair judgments than non-cops? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ and on the other hand, shouldn't we be focusing on ways to make bail decisions more transparent and data-driven in general, regardless of who's behind the bench? it feels like we're getting caught up in the details rather than the bigger picture... ๐Ÿ“Š
 
omg u wont believe this ๐Ÿ˜ฑ so judges w/ law enforcement background r more likely 2 detain ppl & set higher bail amounts thats wild ๐Ÿคฏ like whats gonna change w/ new guidelines tho?? mayor zohran mamdani thinks transparency & diversity r key but how bout gettin it done without all the drama ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ need more data-driven conversations not just lip service ๐Ÿ’โ€โ™€๏ธ
 
๐Ÿค” I gotta say, this study got me thinking... if NYPD backgrounded judges are more likely to detain people and set higher bail amounts, doesn't that just perpetuate the systemic issues we're trying to fix? ๐Ÿšซ Like, isn't the whole point of reducing jail populations to make a dent in that? And what about all those years of avoiding jail time and saving taxpayers $8.7 million... sounds like a pretty good deal, but is it really addressing the root issue? ๐Ÿค‘ We need more than just some data-driven discussions, we need real change from within. Maybe it's time to rethink who's on that mayor's advisory committee and what kind of diversity they're looking for. ๐Ÿ’ก
 
Wow! ๐Ÿคฏ Can u believe 4 percentage points difference in detention orders because of NYPD background? ๐Ÿ’ธ Like how much is a life, right? ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ Interesting that it could be as high as $8.7 million avoided jail time & saving taxpayers all that cash! ๐Ÿ’ฐ
 
I'm like totally reminded of when I was studying law in school, back in 2005 ๐Ÿค“... and we used to do these simulations where you'd have a judge, prosecutor, and defendant all sitting around this table trying to negotiate a deal. It was super intense! ๐Ÿ˜‚ Anyway, this study about NYPD judges is wild, right? Like, four percentage points more likely to detain someone? That's crazy. And the fact that replacing one of these guys could save taxpayers like $8.7 million in detention costs? That's some serious Benjamins ๐Ÿ’ธ... but what's even crazier is how some people are still worried about politics influencing judicial appointments ๐Ÿค”. Can't we just have a more transparent process and make sure the best person gets the job, regardless of their background? ๐Ÿ™
 
omg ๐Ÿ˜ฑ this is wild! i mean, who knew having a law enforcement background would make you more likely to lock someone up in court?! ๐Ÿคฏ like, isn't that just gonna create more problems? and $8.7 million saved on detention costs is crazy ๐Ÿ’ธ but what about the people getting detained in the first place? are we really sure this study wasn't just cherry-picking the data or something? ๐Ÿค” and i'm all for transparency and diversity in the judiciary, but why do we need a whole committee to figure it out? can't they just make it happen through open nominations or something? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ
 
Man, this reminds me of when I was younger and saw all those documentaries about how cops used to influence judges' decisions back in the day ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ. It's crazy that it still happens like this in 2025! The fact that a law enforcement background can just swing someone's bail up by so much is wild, you feel? They're saying that if they replaced one of these cops-turned-judges with someone from a legal services background, it'd make a huge difference ๐Ÿ“Š. But what's the deal with this advisory committee thingy? It's all transparent and professional diversity, but like, how do we really know who's getting in and who's not? ๐Ÿค”
 
๐Ÿค” I mean, can you imagine if judges had no connection to law enforcement? It'd be like having doctors make life-or-death decisions without ever setting foot in a hospital ๐Ÿฅโ€โ™€๏ธ... Just thinking about it, how would they even know what works and what doesn't? The whole policing background thing just seems like too much of an influence on their rulings. And what's with the lack of transparency in the mayor's committee? shouldn't we be able to see who's getting the judgeship and why? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ
 
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