George R.R. Martin Almost Planned a Very Different Kind of Targaryen Power for 'Game of Thrones'

George R.R. Martin Initially Considered a Very Different Targaryen Power in Game of Thrones

When creating his sprawling fantasy world, George R.R. Martin had a different vision for the Targaryens' powers than the one that ultimately made its way into A Song of Ice and Fire and its television adaptations. Martin's early conception of the series drew inspiration from science fiction, where he had previously explored themes of psionic powers - telepathy, empathy, and other mind-based abilities.

In his initial ideas, Martin considered a Targaryen family with pyrokinetic powers. This would have meant that they could harness their minds to set fires, effectively wielding fire like magic. However, it was only after sharing these ideas with Phyllis Eisenstein, the late writer and friend of Martin's, that he realized his fantasy world needed a more concrete connection to science fiction.

Eisenstein convinced Martin that dragons were an essential part of the Targaryen mythology, which has since become one of the defining characteristics of the House of Dragon series. The inclusion of real dragons brought stability and depth to the narrative, transforming it into the beloved franchise we know today.

Martin later reflected on this pivotal moment in his writing process during an interview at the Oxford Union. He discussed how he initially doubted including fantasy elements altogether, even considering rewriting A Song of Ice and Fire as historical fiction. However, after Eisenstein's intervention, Martin realized that incorporating fantastical creatures like dragons was crucial to creating a unique narrative.

Today, fans can witness this evolution in action with HBO's Westeros-set series, A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms, which features puppet dragons alongside humans, while House of Dragon introduces real, living creatures into the mix. The "pyro people" idea has since been replaced by the iconic dragon mythology that Martin initially considered.
 
omg i think its so cool how George R.R. Martin had this alternate vision for Targaryen powers ๐Ÿคฏ... like pyrokinetic abilities would've been SO different from the fire-breathing dragons we know & love ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฅ. can you imagine having to rewrite the entire series as historical fiction though? ๐Ÿ˜ฑ that's crazy talk! i feel bad for Phyllis Eisenstein tho, she had to convince Martin to go with the dragons ๐Ÿ™. now those are some epic plot twists ๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿ”ฎ. i wonder what other cool ideas Martin has lying around somewhere ๐Ÿค
 
I'm totally fascinated by how George R.R. Martin's ideas evolved over time ๐Ÿคฏ. I mean, can you imagine a world where the Targaryens have pyrokinetic powers? ๐Ÿ”ฅ It would've been so cool to see them set fires with their minds! But at the same time, I think it's awesome that he went with dragons instead. I love how Phyllis Eisenstein convinced him to stick with fantasy elements and add those amazing creatures to the mix ๐Ÿฆ‰.

I'm a big fan of A Song of Ice and Fire series now, but it's crazy to think about what could've been if Martin had stuck with his original idea ๐Ÿค”. And I love that we get to see this evolution in action with HBO's new series! The way they're incorporating fantastical creatures is just so well done ๐Ÿ”ฎ.

What do you guys think? Would you have liked it if the Targaryens had pyrokinetic powers instead of dragons? ๐Ÿค”
 
๐Ÿ”ฅ I'm so down for a Targaryen power revamp! Pyrokinetic powers would've added such an epic twist to the series ๐Ÿคฏ Can you imagine Daenerys setting her enemies ablaze with just a thought ๐Ÿ”ฅ It's interesting to see how Phyllis Eisenstein steered George R.R. Martin towards dragons, it makes total sense now that we know how crucial they are to the narrative ๐Ÿ’ก
 
Ugh, I'm still trying to wrap my head around how the forum's search function is always so wonky ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ. Anyway, what's with the history of Targaryen powers? Like, who comes up with these ideas and then changes them on a whim? George R.R. Martin was gonna have pyrokinetic powers like 30 years ago... can you even imagine? "Hey, let's make our family members just set stuff on fire with their minds" ๐Ÿคฃ.

And then Phyllis Eisenstein comes along and is all "dragons are the way to go"... which makes total sense, I guess. I mean, who doesn't love a good fantasy creature? But it's wild that he almost went with historical fiction instead. Can you imagine A Song of Ice and Fire as some dry old history book? ๐Ÿ˜ด.

I do think it's cool how the different series tie everything together, though. I mean, those puppet dragons in The Last Knight of the Seven Kingdoms are pretty awesome, even if they're not living creatures like the real deal ๐Ÿค–. And the fact that Martin can look back and see how his ideas evolved is pretty interesting. Still, sometimes I wish the forum would just get its own stuff together, you know? Like, a decent search function...
 
omg u guys can u believe George R.R. Martin had a totally different vision for Targaryen powers in the beginning?? like he thought they could control fire with their minds lol that's so cool!! I always wondered how he came up with the idea of dragons tho and now it makes total sense Phyllis Eisenstein was such a genius to convince him to stick with it anyway, can u imagine A Song of Ice and Fire as historical fiction?? no thanks!! Martin's process is so fascinating, I love how he experimented with different ideas before settling on what we know today ๐Ÿคฏ๐Ÿ’ซ
 
I was really surprised to learn about George R.R. Martin's initial idea for Targaryen powers ๐Ÿคฏ! Pyrokinetic powers would've been so cool, but I can see how dragons ended up being a better fit ๐Ÿ˜Š. Phyllis Eisenstein must be super proud of herself for convincing Martin to stick with it ๐Ÿ‘. The way the story evolved is just amazing - from doubt about fantasy elements to creating an entire world around those fantastical creatures ๐ŸŒŸ. Now, I'm even more excited to see how they're going to incorporate puppet dragons and real ones in A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms! ๐Ÿ”ฅ
 
omg i just thought about this in history class lol we were studying medieval times and how fantasy got created from those times it's crazy to think grrm's world could've been so different ๐Ÿคฏ like what if fire magic was a thing instead of dragons?! anyway, it's awesome how phyllis influenced the direction of the show and how martin realized that having real creatures added depth to the story ๐Ÿ’ก
 
OMG ๐Ÿคฏ, I'm still trying to wrap my head around this! So, George R.R. Martin was actually thinking of making his Targaryen characters have fire powers like a sci-fi thing ๐Ÿš€๐Ÿ”ฅ and not just the whole dragon thing ๐Ÿ‰๐Ÿ’Ž... and can you even imagine if that had happened? ๐Ÿ˜‚ I mean, it's still kinda cool to think about how one person's idea changed the entire direction of the show! ๐Ÿคฏ The dragons are just so iconic now, but it's awesome to see where Martin was headed before Phyllis Eisenstein came along and said "dragons, dude!" ๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿ‰
 
aww man i can imagine how different game of thrones would've been with pyrokinetic powers ๐Ÿคฏ๐Ÿ”ฅ... i mean who wouldn't want to set fires with their mind? but i'm glad phyllis convinced george r.r martin to go with the dragon thing - those creatures add so much magic to the story ๐Ÿ’ซ. it's cool how martin was hesitant at first, even thought about rewriting a song of ice and fire as historical fiction ๐Ÿ“š. but i think that turning point really helped shape the franchise into what we love today ๐Ÿ˜Š.
 
๐Ÿค” I wonder what would've happened if George R.R. Martin had stuck to those pyrokinetic powers ๐ŸŒก๏ธ. It's crazy to think about how different the Game of Thrones universe would be without our beloved dragons ๐Ÿ”ฅ. The idea of Targaryens wielding fire like magic sounds pretty cool, but I guess it just didn't fit with the rest of the world Martin created ๐ŸŒ. On the other hand, introducing real dragons was a genius move โ€“ they've become such an integral part of the franchise's identity ๐Ÿ‘‘. It's interesting to see how that pivotal moment in his writing process changed everything ๐Ÿ”ฎ.
 
I'm loving how this reminds me of Trump's cabinet changes ๐Ÿคฃ! One minute it's like, pyrokinetic powers, the next, dragons are all in. It's like they went from 'alternative energy' to fossil fuels overnight โšก๏ธ! Anyway, I think what's interesting here is that George R.R. Martin was open to different directions for his world-building, kinda like how Obama could've taken the Democratic Party in a completely new direction if he wanted to ๐Ÿค”. The fact that Eisenstein steered him towards dragons shows us that sometimes having someone with a different perspective can be a real game-changer ๐Ÿ’ก.
 
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