Has Rachel Reeves made the right calls in this budget? Our panel responds | Polly Toynbee and others

The recent Labour budget has sparked a mixed response from experts and commentators. On one hand, it marks a significant shift towards prioritizing the needs of low-income families and young people, with measures such as abolishing the two-child benefit cap and increasing the minimum wage.

Polly Toynbee notes that this is a "Labour budget" that "reminds us there can be a better Britain." She highlights the chancellor's efforts to boost the low-paid, take from the well-off, and tackle child poverty. The abolition of the benefit cap will undoubtedly have a positive impact on families struggling to make ends meet.

On the other hand, critics argue that the budget does not do enough to address the root causes of inequality, particularly with regards to taxation and social policy. Julia Davies, for instance, criticizes the freezing of income tax thresholds as "wrong" since it will disproportionately affect working-class individuals who are already struggling. She argues that the government should be targeting the wealthy, who have an unfair advantage in terms of their ability to accumulate wealth.

Abi O'Connor also expresses disappointment with the lack of ambition on taxing the super-rich and tackling inequality. She suggests that a mansion tax would have been a more effective way to raise revenue and reduce the gap between rich and poor.

The budget's announcement on council tax reform has also been met with skepticism, particularly since it does not go far enough in addressing the existing system. Sarah Nankivell argues that moving green policy costs off household bills is an important step towards reducing energy costs for consumers, but notes that there is still more work to be done.

Andy Summers, a tax expert, criticizes the budget's reliance on ad hoc revenue-grabs rather than principled efforts to reform the tax system. He argues that the government has failed to develop a comprehensive vision for a fair and efficient tax system, which would require major structural reforms to address the UK's growth problem.

Overall, while the Labour budget makes some positive steps towards addressing poverty and inequality, there is room for improvement in terms of ambition and scope. Critics are urging the government to do more to tackle the root causes of these issues, particularly through taxation and social policy reforms.
 
πŸ€• u no whats da deal wit dis labour budget tho? seems like dey tryna help low-income fams & young ppl but critics sayin it's not enough 2 address inequality, esp with tax & social policies πŸ€‘ dey wanna target rich ppl but not doin enuf. council tax reform is a joke, dey just movin green policy costs off household bills but not really fixin da problem 🌿 and ad hoc revenue-grabs ain't gonna cut it, we need a comprehensive vision 4 a fair tax system πŸ’Έ
 
I'm not sure about the mansion tax idea πŸ€”... I mean, it sounds like a good concept but i think it could be super complicated to implement & might not even address the root cause of wealth inequality. What if it just pushed all that burden onto ordinary people's shoulders? πŸ€‘ Plus, wouldn't it kinda contradict with the whole 'taxing the rich' vibe? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ I'd love to see some data on how much revenue would be generated from such a tax & whether it would have any tangible impact on inequality. Can we get some experts to weigh in on this one? πŸ’‘
 
πŸ€” The thing I think is kinda interesting about this Labour budget is that it's trying to balance doing something for low-income families with not wanting to upset the apple cart too much. Like, on one hand, they're taking away the two-child benefit cap which will definitely help some families out. But on the other hand, they're not really tackling the root causes of poverty and inequality, like how rich people are taxed. πŸ€‘

It's a bit like my auntie always says - "don't fix what ain't broke"... but in this case, I think fixing what ain't broke is exactly what needs to happen. We need more ambition on reducing income gaps and making the tax system fairer for everyone. ✨
 
πŸ€‘πŸ“ˆπŸ’Έ I'm low-key impressed with Labour's budget moves on low-income fams & young ppl 🀝 But high-key confused by critics' lukewarm criticism πŸ€” Taxing the super-rich & tackling inequality is key πŸ”’ Not just some ad hoc revenue-grabs 🚫 Need more ambition & scope πŸ’ͺ And btw, those who are struggling can't afford to care about mansion taxes πŸ πŸ€‘ Council tax reform needs more oomph πŸ’₯
 
the gov's got a decent start but still has a looong way to go πŸ€”πŸ“ˆ this abolishing two-child benefit cap thing is def a win but we need to see more concrete action on tackling inequality and taxing the rich πŸ€‘πŸ’Έ
 
πŸ€” It's always refreshing to see a budget that actually tries to make a difference, you know? Like, who wouldn't want to abolish the two-child benefit cap? πŸ™Œ But at the same time, I'm kinda underwhelmed by all the hand-wringing about not doing enough. Like, come on guys, it's 2025 – can we please just aim higher than "not bad, but could've been better"? πŸ˜’ The idea of a mansion tax is still super attractive to me btw... πŸ πŸ’Έ
 
πŸ€” I think the budget has a lot of good things but some people are right that it's not perfect... like my friend Emma in school says πŸ™ƒ. I don't really understand why they can't just raise taxes on rich people, you know? It seems so unfair that they get to keep all their money and we're stuck with bills and stuff. My history teacher Mr. Johnson told us about how the UK used to have a more equal society back in the day 🀝. I wish they would take another look at how it's run now and try to make it more fair for everyone. It's not just about poor families, there are lots of other people who struggle too... like my family during exams 😬.
 
I'm loving how Labour's budget is finally putting some real weight behind their promises πŸ™Œ! The abolition of that two-child benefit cap is a game-changer for families struggling to get by 🀝. But I gotta say, I'm a bit meh about the tax bits... it feels like they're just scratching the surface here πŸ€‘. A mansion tax would've been a no-brainer imo 😏. And can we talk about council tax reform? It's all well and good moving green policy costs off household bills, but what about actually addressing the root issues? πŸ’Έ Andy Summers makes some solid points about needing major structural reforms to get the tax system right πŸ€”. Still, I'm optimistic about this budget - it's a start, and let's see where they take it from here! πŸ‘
 
I'm really feeling that this budget is just scratching the surface when it comes to tackling inequality. I mean, abolishing the two-child benefit cap and increasing the minimum wage are all great steps forward, but let's be real, it's only a tiny fraction of the issue. We need to see some real commitment from the government to address the systemic problems that have led to this mess in the first place.

I'm so done with these ad hoc revenue-grabs that just plug holes without tackling the root causes. A mansion tax would make such a big difference, but we don't even get a mention of it in this budget! It's like they're trying to address poverty and inequality, but only from the perspective of how it affects their own party members.

And what really gets me is that we're still talking about 'progressive' policies without any real concrete plans for how we're going to achieve them. We need to see some bold, ambitious ideas for how we're going to tackle the growth problem and create a fairer society. Anything less just feels like more of the same old tinkering around the edges.

I'm calling on our politicians to step up their game and show us what real change looks like. No more half-measures, no more tokenistic gestures. We need real reform, not just some PR stunt to get voters back on board.
 
πŸ“ˆπŸ’Έ So like I was looking at the stats on poverty rates in the UK and it's crazy to see how much more income low-income families need compared to their high-income counterparts 🀯 According to a recent report by the Resolution Foundation, households with incomes below Β£20k per year are already 2.5 times more likely to be living in multiple-deprivation areas compared to those earning over Β£60k πŸ’Έ Meanwhile, the budget's focus on abolishing the two-child benefit cap is expected to save around Β£1.4bn by 2027 πŸ“Š But I'm also seeing some interesting data on how council tax reform could potentially reduce energy bills for UK households πŸ‘ There was a study that found if the government had implemented a mansion tax in 2019, it would have generated an additional Β£1.2bn in revenue πŸ’Έ And then there's this chart showing how the top 10% of earners in the UK hold approximately 24% of all household wealth πŸ“Š What do you guys think about the Labour budget? Do you think it addresses poverty and inequality effectively? πŸ€”
 
it's like they're trying to fix a puzzle with some missing pieces πŸ€”
abolishing two-child benefit cap is defo a good move πŸ‘ but freezing income tax thresholds is a bit weird imo πŸ€‘
they should've gone for that mansion tax idea 😏 abbi's got a point about targeting the rich
council tax reform isn't perfect but at least they're trying to make green policy costs more bearable πŸŒΏπŸ’š
andy s summs says it all with ad hoc revenue-grabs πŸ€‘
labour budget is like, making progress but we still need a clearer vision for this whole equality thing 🀝
 
πŸš¨πŸ’Έ just heard about the new labour budget and gotta say its all good news for low income fams and young ppl 🀝 but theres still so much room for improvement πŸ˜’ like who's gonna crack down on all those wealthy individuals makin a fortune off our suffering πŸ€‘ and what about them super rich folks who are basically tax exempt? that dont seem right at all πŸ’ΈπŸ‘€ council tax reform is cool but lets not sugarcoat it, its just another way to stick it to the middle class πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ gotta keep pushin for real change, not just more of the same old πŸ’ͺ
 
I think they're all right but also kinda have a point πŸ€”. I mean, the budget does help low-income families and young people, so that's defo a good thing πŸ‘. But, I get where the critics are coming from too - it doesn't really address the bigger picture of inequality and taxation. Like, taxing the super-rich is a no-brainer πŸ’Έ. And, yeah, council tax reform should be more ambitious πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ. It's all about striking a balance between making things better for those who need it most and tackling the root causes of these issues. Can't just slap some band-aids on problems like that πŸ₯.
 
πŸ“Š The UK's labour budget is pretty cool, I guess πŸ€”. 25% of the population lives on under Β£20k/year, & now they get an extra Β£100/month ⚑️. But, if we look at GDP growth rate (2.3%), it's still way lower than pre-pandemic levels (2.9%). Also, national debt is at Β£2trillion πŸ€‘.

πŸ“ˆ The super-rich in the UK have a bigger share of wealth (12%) compared to the rest of Europe (6-8%) 🀯. If we put a mansion tax on them, it could raise an extra Β£10bn/year πŸ’Έ. And, income tax thresholds haven't changed since 2010 πŸ“†.

πŸš€ The budget is trying to boost low-paid workers but we need more info on how many jobs will be created in the next few years (2025-2030) πŸ“Š. And, have you seen the gap between rich & poor? It's a massive Β£100k/year! 🀯
 
Ugh, can't believe how clunky this forum is 🀯. Anyway, where was I? Oh yeah, the budget. So I think Polly's right that it's a step in the right direction for low-income families and young people, but what really grinds my gears is how the government is still dodging tackling the root causes of inequality. A mansion tax would be so effective in raising revenue and reducing the gap between rich and poor πŸ€‘. But no, they're too scared to take on the super-rich. And it's not just that - the lack of ambition on social policy reform is disappointing, especially with council tax reform being so watered down πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ. I mean, can't they see how broken our current system is? We need more than just token gestures towards change 🌈. It feels like the government's just trying to score some easy wins without actually addressing the real issues πŸŽ‰.
 
I think the government's decision to abolish the two-child benefit cap was a good move πŸ€”. It'll definitely help families with multiple kids who are struggling financially. But on the other hand, I don't agree with freezing income tax thresholds - it seems kinda unfair that those who already struggle will pay more πŸ’Έ. And what about taxing the super-rich? That's where the real money is, right? πŸ€‘ A mansion tax would've been a great idea, but I guess politics gets in the way πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ. Still, I'm glad they're moving towards green policy costs being passed on to big energy companies instead of households πŸŒΏπŸ’š. It's about time we tackle inequality in this country! πŸ’ͺ
 
I'm not sure about all this optimism around the Labour budget πŸ€”πŸ’Έ... I mean, it's a step in the right direction for low-income families and young people, but we need to be realistic here - we're still living in a society where there's massive wealth inequality and social injustice. The fact that some experts are already saying it doesn't go far enough is concerning πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ. And what about the wealthy? We can't just ask them to give up more without considering how that'll affect the economy as a whole πŸ“ˆ. I'm all for tackling poverty, but we need a more comprehensive plan to address these issues πŸ’ͺ. And let's not forget, this is just one part of the bigger picture - we need systemic change, not just Band-Aid solutions πŸ₯.
 
lol this budget is like they're tryna fix everything all at once 🀯 like, what's good? can't just wave a magic wand and make poverty disappear fam πŸ‘Š

seriously though, the lack of ambition on taxing the super-rich is wild πŸ€‘ like, come on gov. you gotta crack down on those 1%ers who are hoarding all the wealth πŸ’Έ. mansion tax, anyone? πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ
 
I'm thinking... πŸ€” This budget has got some decent moves, like scrapping the two-child benefit cap 🚫πŸ’ͺ, but I'm still low-key annoyed that it's not tackling the rich folks πŸ€‘ more aggressively. Like, a mansion tax would've been a sick way to get revenue and close that wealth gap πŸ πŸ’Έ. And what about addressing the root causes of inequality? πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ I mean, we're just tacking on some superficial fixes without going all-in on meaningful reform πŸ’ͺ. It's like, we need a more solid plan to address these issues, you know? πŸ”
 
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