Labor's hate speech laws pass Senate in late-night vote as Nationals split from Liberals to oppose bill

Labor's Hate Speech Laws Pass Senate in Late-Night Vote Amid Coalition Split

In a dramatic turn of events, the Australian Senate has passed hate speech laws that allow the government to ban extremist organizations and impose stricter penalties on those who advocate or threaten violence. The laws, which were rushed through the legislative process on Tuesday night, have been described as a "vast improvement" by Liberal MPs after the party's initial concerns were addressed.

The coalition split occurred when the Nationals party, led by David Littleproud, refused to support the bill in its original form, citing what they called an "overreach" of government authority. The Nationals subsequently joined forces with the Greens and other opposition parties to block the legislation, but ultimately, 38 votes to 22 won out.

The new laws are seen as a significant step towards tackling extremist groups that promote hate speech and incite violence. The government will have the power to ban organizations deemed to pose a threat to national security, including neo-Nazis and Islamist groups like Hizb ut-Tahrir. The laws also introduce stricter penalties for those who advocate or threaten violence.

However, the opposition has expressed concerns that the laws could be used to silence legitimate criticism of other countries or infringe on freedom of speech. Greens spokesperson Mehreen Faruqi warned that the legislation would have a "chilling effect" on political debate and civil rights.

In a surprise move, Liberal MPs who initially opposed the bill eventually switched their stance after negotiations with Labor. The party's home affairs minister, Tony Burke, dismissed concerns about the laws' impact on freedom of speech, saying they were only aimed at combating racist bigotry.

As part of the same legislative package, the government has introduced new gun control laws as part of a national buyback scheme. The laws include stricter background checks for gun owners and more rigorous import controls.

The passage of these laws comes amid growing concerns about antisemitism in Australia following the Bondi beach massacre, which claimed the lives of nine people from the Jewish community. Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has announced plans to establish a royal commission into antisemitism, which is seen as a significant step towards addressing the issue.

Overall, the Australian government's decision to pass hate speech laws and introduce new gun control measures has sparked debate about the balance between security and civil liberties.
 
πŸ€” I'm not really sure about these new hate speech laws in Australia... They seem like they're trying to stop people from being super racist or whatever, but at the same time, there's some concern that it could actually silence people who are just speaking out against things they don't agree with. Like, I get why we want to protect people from getting hurt by hate speech and all that, but aren't we already doing that in other ways? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

And then there's the part about banning extremist organizations... I guess that's a good thing, but who gets to decide what groups are "extremist"? And won't that just lead to some kind of politics of fear where people are too scared to speak out because they're worried they'll get labeled as an "extremist"?

It all feels like we're playing with fire when it comes to freedom of speech, you know? πŸš’
 
omg this is such a wild ride... think its good they r finally tackling the hate speech thing tho 🀯 but gotta wonder if theyre overstepping their bounds like david littleproud said πŸ€” dont wanna be in a situation where ppl are silenced for having an opinion πŸ’¬ also gotta give props to the gov for addressing antisemitism and the bondi beach massacre was a tragic event 😒 think these new laws could help prevent something similar from happening again πŸ‘
 
I think these laws are a complete disaster πŸš¨πŸ’” I mean, who doesn't want to stop hate speech and all that, right? But then again, maybe we're just caving in to extremist groups by giving them so much power over what can be said... πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ It's like, do we really want to create a culture of self-censorship? πŸ€” On the other hand, if we don't take action now, we might as well be letting terrorists dictate our conversation... 😬 But, at the same time, what about free speech and the press? Can't they just have an opinion without being silenced? πŸ“°πŸ‘€ I mean, the government's all like "we're protecting us from ourselves", but isn't that just a fancy way of saying "we don't want to deal with the hard issues"? πŸ’β€β™‚οΈ Ugh, I'm so confused 🀯...
 
πŸ€” It's kinda weird that the Nationals party changed their mind at the last minute... like what made them switch sides? πŸ’‘ Was it just a PR move or was there actually some convincing from Labor to make them support it again? πŸ˜• I'm curious about how this new law will affect free speech in Australia - is it just gonna be targeted at extremist groups or could regular people get penalized for saying something they shouldn't? πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ
 
man this hate speech law thing its wild 🀯... i mean on one hand its good that theyre tryna crack down on extremist groups thats def a win for australia but on the other hand im worried about freedom of speech like what happens when someone speaks out against gov or another country? does it get silenced because "it might be hate speech"? πŸ€” idk man sometimes i feel like were just trading one form of extremism for another. and whats with the gun control laws? seems like a step in the right direction but also kinda scary that theyre takin away our rights like thats how u keep us safe lol πŸ˜‚
 
I'm not sure if this law will really make a difference πŸ€”. I mean, we've had extremist groups in Australia for ages and they've still managed to cause chaos. And what's with the coalition split? It just feels like a bunch of parties trying to look good by backing laws that benefit their own interests.

And have you seen the list of organizations that can be banned under this law? It's super broad 🚫. What's next, banning people who criticize the government online? That would be a real chilling effect on free speech 😬. I'm all for addressing hate speech and extremism, but we need to make sure we're not sacrificing our freedoms in the process.

And what about the opposition's concerns? shouldn't we be listening to them too? πŸ—£οΈ The Greens are right that this law could have a big impact on political debate and civil rights. We need to be careful about how we balance security with freedom of speech.
 
Man I just can't even... 😩 They're basically letting the gov do whatever they want now with these new laws 🀯 Like how did we end up here? Back in my day, we used to have debates without getting shut down for speaking out against something πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ Now it's all about "hate speech" this and "national security" that... where's the nuance? πŸ€” I'm not saying extreme groups shouldn't be stopped but do we really need a whole new law to deal with it? And what's next, gonna ban us from talking about politics on the 'gram too? πŸ˜‚
 
just saw this news about australia passing those hate speech laws 🀯 been reading alot of comments online and i gotta say im a bit concerned about how this is gonna affect free speech in australia its not just about silencing neo nazis or islamist groups but also about what happens to people who speak out against government policies or other countries... dont think it should be that hard to disagree with someone without being banned from social media lol πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ
 
omg like what just happened in australia?? 🀯 so its official now they have these crazy new hate speech laws that can ban extremist groups and stuff but like theres still gonna be ppl worried about free speech πŸ€” i mean idk man i feel like its all good we gotta stay safe right? πŸ™ the gov is tryin to tackle those racist bigots and neo nazis and all that but u never know how it's gonna play out in real life 🀝 and btw those new gun laws are a total game changer 🎯πŸ’₯ i'm lowkey hyped about the royal commission tho πŸ‘‘ hopefully they can get to the bottom of antisemitism in australia πŸ’•
 
πŸ€” I think it's really worrying that these hate speech laws could be used to silence people who are just trying to have a chat about serious issues. I mean, shouldn't we be able to discuss things without being judged or punished? The government needs to make sure they're not overstepping their bounds and infringing on our rights. It's a delicate balance between keeping us safe and giving people the freedom to express themselves. πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ The fact that the Nationals party was willing to block the legislation but then switched sides after negotiations with Labor makes me think there are still some major concerns about how these laws will be enforced... 😬
 
I'm low-key impressed that the Aussie Senate managed to get stuff done in record time πŸ•°οΈ. It's like they're trying to show everyone what they can do with a bit of momentum πŸ’ͺ. Now, I know some people are worried about freedom of speech going down the drain, but I think it's worth noting that these laws could be a game-changer for tackling hate groups and keeping people safe 🀝.

The fact that Liberal MPs were able to put aside their initial concerns and come around to supporting the bill is pretty cool πŸ‘. And let's be real, who doesn't want to take down some nasty extremist groups? It's not exactly a complicated ask, right? 😊

Of course, there are still some concerns about how these laws will play out in practice, but I think it's worth having this conversation πŸ€”. Maybe we can use this as an opportunity to think about what balance is, and how far the government needs to go to keep people safe πŸ’¬.
 
πŸ€” I'm kinda surprised they passed these laws so quickly πŸ•’οΈ, but I guess it's good that they're taking steps to tackle those extremist groups 🚫. The fact that the Nationals joined forces with the Greens 🀝 shows there are some common ground being found 🌈, even if it was a pretty dramatic turn of events 😲. I'm curious to see how this will all play out in practice πŸ’‘, especially when it comes to those gun control laws 🎯. It's good that they're introducing stricter checks and controls, but you never know what kind of loopholes might pop up πŸ”.
 
i'm not sure if i'm comfortable with this whole thing... πŸ€” they're trying to crack down on hate groups but it feels like they're gonna start controlling what we can say too. like, shouldn't we be able to criticize our governments or other countries without getting in trouble? i mean, that's kinda the point of free speech, right?

and what about all these organizations being banned just because they might promote some extremist views? doesn't that feel a bit Orwellian? 🚫 like, what's next? Are we gonna start getting "re-education camps" for anyone who disagrees with the government?

i'm also a bit worried about how this is gonna affect our civil liberties. i know it's gotta be tough to deal with groups promoting hate speech and inciting violence, but can't we just have a nuanced discussion about it? shouldn't we be able to have multiple perspectives before someone gets silenced? πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ

i guess what i'm saying is that while i get the intent behind these laws, i'm not sure if they're gonna end up being as effective as everyone hopes. and i hope we can still have a good old-fashioned debate about this without anyone getting in trouble for speaking their mind πŸ’¬
 
idk about these new hate speech laws πŸ€”... seems like they're trying to chill free speech a bit too much πŸ˜•. i mean, yeah, extremist groups need to be shut down, but can't we just have a nuanced approach to this? the gov's saying it's only about combating racist bigotry, but what about criticizing other countries or ideologies that aren't exactly hateful? don't wanna infringe on people's right to protest or speak out against injustice πŸ—£οΈ. also, 38-22 in senate is pretty skewed... how many reps actually voted for this? need some stats before i can fully get on board πŸ‘€
 
idk why ppl are so hyped about these hate speech laws lol they're like "oh its gonna ban neo nazis and all that" but really its just a way for gov to silence ppl who disagree with em πŸ€” meanwhile, what about freedom of speech tho? it feels like they're already infringing on our rights with these gun control measures... i mean, whats next? are we gonna lose the right to have an opinion if its unpopular? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ
 
I mean, what a totally reasonable idea to ban extremist groups that promote hate speech... sounds like they're not going anywhere anytime soon πŸ˜’. And I'm sure it has nothing to do with trying to silence dissenting voices or stifle free speech... πŸ™„. 38 votes for these laws? I guess the coalition's internal struggles were just a minor hurdle to overcome πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ. Meanwhile, I'm more concerned about the potential impact on Australia's already- fragile reputation as a champion of free speech and democracy πŸ’”.
 
idk how ppl feel about these new laws lol they r like kinda reasonable but also super worrying cuz whats 2 stop hate speach in 1 go? like, dont they think thats infringing on free speech or smthn? πŸ€” anywayz im just glad the gov is doin somethin about all that racism and terrorism stuff. i mean, havent seen some pretty disturbing vids online lately and its good 2 know ther r laws in place 2 protect ppl. but at the same time u have 2 think bout the cons like, are they gonna be used against people who r just trying 2 speak out about injustices? πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ
 
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