Nato chief Rutte: 'Keep on dreaming' if you think Europe could defend itself without US – as it happened

NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg has stated that if European countries believe they can defend themselves without the United States, they should "keep on dreaming." In a statement made during a hearing at the European Parliament, Stoltenberg emphasized that NATO's defense spending would need to increase significantly in order for Europe to be able to defend itself.

According to him, this would involve an enormous amount of investment – billions and billions of euros – as well as the purchase of nuclear capabilities. He stressed the importance of the US-NATO relationship, saying that Europe needs the US just like the US needs NATO. This sentiment was also echoed by Stoltenberg in relation to Afghanistan, where he acknowledged that while President Trump's tone had changed since last week, the US still appreciates all efforts made by other countries in their fight against terrorism.

Regarding Ukraine, Stoltenberg noted that recent comments from Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy indicate that a deal on security guarantees is close to being reached. However, this progress has come with its own set of challenges, particularly when it comes to Russia's territorial claims and the ongoing threat posed by Russian aggression in Ukraine.

As for Greenland, Stoltenberg explained that his team had engaged in two separate work streams – one focusing on NATO's collective security efforts in the Arctic, while another looked into Danish-Greenlandic-US relations. He pointed out that the US has an interest in maintaining its presence in Greenland due to strategic military locations and resources.

Stoltenberg was also asked about Russia's claims regarding the threat of Western troops entering Ukraine. He responded by reiterating his warning that any Western involvement would be met with legitimate strikes from Russia, stating that "we all know" that Ukraine's security is tied closely to Europe's own.

While acknowledging concerns over defense spending and the need for greater cooperation between member states, Stoltenberg maintained that NATO remains committed to its long-standing goal of collective defense. He also expressed support for regional initiatives aimed at strengthening security partnerships across the continent.
 
omg u guys dont believe nato is gonna be like a whole thing without usa lol 🤣 they need us like we need them tbh 💸 billions and billions of euros?? who's got that kinda cash? 🤑 but for real tho, increasing defense spending is a must if europe wanna defend itself. nato's all about collective defense so lets not forget that 🤝 any western involvement in ukraine wouldnt be taken lightly by russia, they'd strike back hard 💥 thats why cooperation between member states is key 👫
 
OMG, this NATO guy is like, super clear on one thing - Europe needs the US 🤯! Like, billions and billions of euros are needed to upgrade their military and protect themselves, no joke 💸! It's not like they can just wake up one day and be all, "Hey, we got this!" 😂. Stoltenberg is trying to tell them that they need the US' support, and that Europe needs NATO more than ever 🤝.

And omg, have you seen Russia's claims about Western troops in Ukraine? Like, legit strikes from Russia if anyone shows up? 💥 That's some crazy stuff! But Stoltenberg is still all about collective defense and strengthening security partnerships - he just wants everyone to get along 🌎. The Arctic thing with Greenland is also super interesting... like what's the deal with that ❄️.
 
so i'm thinking, if europe's really gonna defend itself without the us, they're gonna need some serious cash 💸 and a whole lotta military might 🤖. stoltenberg's saying it's not feasible for them to do it alone, which makes sense considering how expensive and complicated military operations are. but at the same time, he's acknowledging that europe needs to take more ownership of its own security, which is a good thing.

the whole thing with ukraine is also super tricky 🤯. i'm glad zelenskyy seems like they're making progress on some sort of security deal, but we gotta be careful not to escalate things further with russia. and stoltenberg's right that europe's security is tied to our own 🌎.

as for greenland, it's interesting to see the us taking an interest in maintaining its presence there 👀. maybe it's just a strategic move, but i'm also thinking about what this means for indigenous communities living in the arctic ❄️.
 
so stoltenberg is saying europe needs us like we need nato lol 🤣 can't believe he's basically saying we're not capable of defending ourselves, that's pretty depressing 💔 but at the same time i get it, nato's been around for ages and we do rely on them. but billions of euros isn't a lot to you americans, right? 💸 we need to step up our own defense spending, that's all 🚀
 
🤔 this guy stoltenberg is just saying what every american wants to hear, like europe needs them more than they need us 🤑 but seriously though, can't they just pay up and stop whining about it? billions of euros sounds like a whole lotta cash 💸 nato's been around for ages, time to step up their game 💪
 
I feel like this is so true what Jens Stoltenberg said about Europe needing the US to defend itself 🤔. I was talking to my friend in history class and he mentioned how NATO's formation during the Cold War was a response to the threat of communism. He said that even though things have changed since then, NATO still plays a huge role in keeping the continent safe 💯. I'm not sure if Europe could really defend itself without the US, it just seems like too much of an investment 🤑. And what's with Russia's territorial claims and aggression towards Ukraine? It feels like they're always causing problems wherever they go 😒.
 
im not sure about this whole us-nato thing... i mean europe needs the us but the us needs nato too right? it's like, we can't really defend ourselves without each other? Stoltenberg makes a good point about defense spending tho - billions of euros is a lot to ask from european countries. but at the same time, they need to step up their game if they wanna be able to protect themselves. and what's with all these territorial claims and russian aggression in ukraine? can't we just talk it out like adults? 🤔💬
 
I mean what's with these EU countries thinking they can be all like "oh we don't need US anymore"? Like, sure dude you can have billions of euros and nuclear capabilities but are you really ready to take on Russia solo? 🤣 It's not that simple. NATO's defense spending is gonna have to go up big time or else... well let's just say Europe wouldn't be the most appealing place to live if Russia decides to make a move.

And btw what even is this deal on security guarantees with Ukraine? Sounds like a fancy way of saying "we're gonna pretend everything's fine but actually we're still faking it till we make it". 🤦‍♂️ And Stoltenberg just casually mentions that Russia would legit strike back if Western troops enter Ukraine... like, no kidding. That's what happens when you play with fire. 🔥
 
🤔 I gotta say, this news is a bit worrying. What's up with Europe thinking it can defend itself without the US? Don't get me wrong, we all know NATO has to step up and show its own strength, but relying on just the US for security doesn't make sense 🤑. And let's be real, increasing defense spending by billions of euros is a lot to swallow 😱. Still, I kinda get what Stoltenberg is saying - like, Europe needs the US, and the US needs NATO... it's all about that mutual support thing 💯. On the other hand, Russia's still being super aggressive, so we gotta keep an eye on that 🚨. Anyways, I hope they can make some progress with Ukraine and get those security guarantees sorted out ASAP 🙏.
 
🤔 I mean, think about it - if Europe really wants to be a player on the global stage without the US backing them up, they need to be ready to put in some serious cash 💸 and resources 💪. Like, billions of euros is not just talk - that's actual money 💸 we're talking about. And yeah, nuclear capabilities are a thing now too 🤯. Stoltenberg's right, though, the US-NATO relationship is a symbiotic one, Europe needs the US and vice versa. It's like they say, when it comes to security, you can't put a price on peace 🕊️.
 
😩 oh man i cant even believe what these europes leaders are saying these days like "keep on dreaming" is so dismissive and hurtful theyre literally implying that europe has to be held hostage by us forever its like a never ending cycle of dependency and its not fair to the rest of the world 🤯

and then stoltenberg talks about how nato needs to increase spending but doesnt mention anything about the billions he and his colleagues are raking in meanwhile europe is literally begging for scraps 💸 this whole thing feels like a total charade 🎭

and what really gets me is that everyone knows its all just a big game of geopolitical chess but nobody wants to talk about it honestly 😒 nato's got its hooks deep in every european country and thats not something they can just up and leave anytime soon...its like we're stuck in some kind of toxic relationship 💔
 
omg u no wat dis guy stoltenberg is tryin 2 say lol he's like "if european countries think they can defend themselves w/o us, they shud keep dreamin" lol what a downer 🤦‍♂️ but seriously tho, im all 4 europe 2 step up their game nd invest in defense like billions nd billions of euros. thats the move 👊 nato needs 2 b more transparent abt its spending & goals, or else ppl cn't take it serious. also, stoltenberg's comments bout russia bein a threat 2 ukraine is low-key worrying 🤔 but on the bright side, stoltenberg's all 4 regional security initiatives, which cud b super helpful. natos defense spending should def b increased, esp w/ russias aggression in ukraine 💪
 
omg u think europe can defend itself without usa? 😂 billions of euros and nuclear capabilities? come on that's like asking if a scooter is gonna cut it when u need a tank 🚫 not to mention afghanistan, stoltenberg's just trying 2 keep the usa involved 😒 as for greenland, strategic military locations and resources? more like strategic us interests 💸 and let's be real, nato's all about collective defense which means europe needs the usa's $$$ and military might 🤑
 
🤔 I'm not sure if Europe can really defend itself without the US, I mean, billions and billions of euros is a big ask. I get that Stoltenberg's saying they need to step up their game but it feels like they're expecting European countries to just magic up all this money out of thin air. And what about the nuclear capabilities? That's a whole other can of worms. 🚀

I do think NATO's commitment to collective defense is admirable, but we need to be realistic here. We've seen how Russia's reacted in Ukraine and that's not exactly reassuring. 💥 I'm all for regional security initiatives, but we need to have a more nuanced conversation about the costs and benefits of increased military spending.

Stoltenberg's right that Europe needs the US, just like the US needs NATO, but let's not pretend it's a zero-sum game where one side wins and the other loses. It's time for us to start having more constructive conversations about how we can work together to achieve our security goals without breaking the bank 🤑
 
omg u think europe can defend themselves without us? i feel u guys have been overestimating ur capabilities 4 far lol 🤣 nato needs 2 increase spending like to the moon & get nuclear capabilities if they wanna be taken seriously. stoltenberg is right, the relationship between nato & usa is a symbiotic one - europe needs us & we need u for stability in ur backyard 🌍 also gotta say, russia's aggression is getting outta hand & we should be supporting ukraine more not just talking about security guarantees 💪💥
 
I'm low-key worried about Europe's defensibility 🤔💡. Jens Stoltenberg's statement is spot on – if they wanna ditch the US, they're gonna have to put in some serious cash 💸 and nuclear capabilities 💥. I mean, billions of euros and all that jazz? It's a big ask 🤯. But at the same time, I get what he's saying – Europe needs the US just as much as the US needs NATO 👫.

Russia's territorial claims and aggression in Ukraine are still a major concern 🚨. We can't just ignore the fact that Russia's been making some pretty wild claims about Western troops entering Ukraine 🔥. Stoltenberg's right to say that if we're gonna get involved, there'll be consequences from Russia 💣.

I'm all for increased defense spending and greater cooperation between member states 🤝, but let's not forget that NATO's got a long history of doing just that 👊. We need to keep pushing forward on security partnerships and initiatives across the continent 🌎. It's gonna take some serious effort and coordination, but I'm here for it 💪!
 
I feel like Stoltenberg's comments are kinda balanced right? I mean, he's saying Europe needs the US, but he's also acknowledging that they can't just sit back and do nothing about their own defense. It's not all doom and gloom, you know? The fact that there's progress being made on security guarantees with Ukraine is a step in the right direction 💡. And let's be real, the Arctic is super strategic 🌊. I think we should focus on building those regional security partnerships instead of getting bogged down in defense spending debates. NATO's got this – they've been around for decades and have seen some tough stuff 🤝. We just gotta keep working together and support each other.
 
I'm not convinced about these plans to increase defense spending in Europe 🤑 It's just going to put a huge burden on the EU's economy and they're already dealing with high inflation rates. And what's the point of getting nuclear capabilities? It's just going to escalate tensions with Russia even more 💣 I mean, have we really thought this through? We can't just assume that Europe will be able to defend itself without the US... that's just wishful thinking 🤦‍♂️ Stoltenberg's comments about Ukraine are reassuring but what's the plan B if those security guarantees aren't met?
 
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