The Math on AI Agents Doesn’t Add Up

The Dream of AI Agents: Can We Trust the Machines?

Imagine a world where intelligent machines, dubbed "agentic AI agents," are in control. No longer will humans be burdened with mundane tasks, and innovation would be limitless. However, for many experts, this vision is more like a pipe dream than a reality. A recent research paper has cast doubt on the feasibility of agentic AI agents, suggesting that they may not live up to their promise.

According to Vishal Sikka, a former SAP CTO and current head of an AI services startup called Vianai, AI agents are inherently flawed due to "hallucinations" – or made-up information. This limitation is fundamental to the nature of language models like LLMs (Large Language Models), which are used to power these intelligent machines.

"Sloppy thinking will be tolerated," Sikka warns. While not all human errors can be replicated by AI, it's unlikely that every single mistake will be entirely eliminated. "So we should forget about AI agents running nuclear power plants?" he jokingly asks.

However, some prominent figures in the field disagree with Sikka's pessimism. Robinhood CEO Vlad Tenev and Stanford-trained mathematician Tudor Achim have founded a startup called Harmonic that claims to have made breakthroughs in guaranteeing the trustworthiness of AI systems. By using formal methods of mathematical reasoning to verify an LLM's output, they believe it is possible to filter out hallucinations and create more reliable agents.

Harmonic's solution involves encoding outputs in the Lean programming language, which can be verified for correctness. While their focus has been narrow so far, coding is an organic extension of their main mission – mathematical superintelligence.

Despite these advancements, most models still suffer from "hallucinations," as OpenAI scientists have demonstrated. In a paper published last September, they asked three models, including ChatGPT, to provide the title of a lead author's dissertation and found that all three provided fake titles.

However, rather than abandoning the concept of agentic AI agents, some argue that guardrails can be created to mitigate hallucinations. This perspective holds that it is possible to create systems that learn from and overcome limitations like hallucinations.

Ultimately, the question remains whether these advancements will lead to a world where human cognitive activity is automated, potentially improving quality and lives. While mathematical verifiability may not provide clear answers, one thing is certain: we are rapidly hurtling towards an AI-driven future, and it's up to us to consider what that means for our society.

For now, the debate rages on, with no definitive resolution in sight. As Alan Kay so aptly put it, "The mathematical question is beside the point." Instead, we must focus on understanding the impact of these machines on our lives.
 
I'm low-key concerned about agentic AI agents 🤖. The idea that they can learn and adapt without human oversight is both exciting and terrifying 😬. If we're not careful, these machines could end up perpetuating biases and errors from their creators, rather than truly improving our lives 📊.

It's interesting to see the different approaches being taken by companies like Harmonic and OpenAI to mitigate hallucinations and create more reliable agents 💻. But at the end of the day, I think we need a more nuanced conversation about what it means to "trust" AI systems 🤔. Can we really rely on machines to make decisions that affect our well-being and safety? 🚨
 
I'm not sure if I want my kids playing video games that can have conversations like humans but aren't always accurate 😂. It's wild to think about how much our lives are going to change with agentic AI agents, but we need to make sure we're ready for the potential downsides 🤔. I mean, what if these machines start making decisions on their own and we can't trust them? We need some kind of guardrails in place before things get out of hand 💡.
 
I'm a bit concerned about agentic AI agents taking over mundane tasks, but what if they're just really good at automating things? I mean, who needs humans to make copies when machines can do it way faster and more accurately 🤖💼. But on the other hand, I don't want us to forget that there are limitations with these language models like LLMs... some experts say they're prone to "hallucinations". Can we really trust AI agents enough to have them make life-or-death decisions?
 
I'm tellin' ya, this whole AI thing is sketchy 💡. First, they're sayin' AI agents are gonna save us from all our mundane tasks, but then we find out they got "hallucinations" 🤯 and can't even get the title of a dissertation right 😂. It's like they're tryin' to trick us into thinkin' they're more intelligent than humans. And now this Harmonic startup is comin' along with their fancy Lean programming language, but I'm not convinced it's gonna make all the difference 🤔.

I mean, what's the real motive behind all this? Are we just gonna hand over our lives to a bunch of code and hope for the best? 🤷‍♂️ It seems like they're tryin' to create these AI systems that can think for themselves, but who gets to decide what's "good" or "bad"? 🤝

And don't even get me started on the whole "mathematical superintelligence" thing 🤯. Sounds like science fiction to me. What happens when we've got machines makin' decisions that are beyond human comprehension? We're playin' with fire here, folks 🔥.
 
I'm still thinking about this whole agentic AI agent thing and how trustworthy they'll be 🤔... some people think we're just dreaming big 🌙... I mean, AI hallucinations are a real problem 🚨... but others think we can create systems that learn from them 📈... it's like, what even is the point of creating these machines if they're just gonna make mistakes? 😳... and don't even get me started on nuclear power plants 🚨... anyone think they'll actually work? 💡
 
AI agents might sound super cool but I'm still not convinced they're ready to take over the world 🤔💻. The idea that hallucinations can be guaranteed filtered out is pretty ambitious and it's hard to trust AI systems entirely. They can already do a lot of things better than humans, like processing info way faster, so why fix what ain't broke? We need to focus on how these machines are going to change our society and what kind of impact they'll have on jobs and social dynamics. Not saying it's all doom and gloom but we should be careful about creating a future where human cognitive activity is automated 💸
 
omg i just read this article about AI agents and i'm like totally confused 🤔 what's the diff between hallucinations and making mistakes? isnt that just part of how they learn? and isnt Vlad Tenev from Robinhood too? i thought he was like a billionaire or something 💸 anyway i think its cool that Harmonic is trying to figure out ways to make AI more trustworthy 👍 but can we really create systems that are foolproof? 😳 i dont know man, i just wanna ask u what do u think about this 🤔
 
I think we need to be cautious but not completely dismiss the idea of agentic AI agents just yet 🤔. Sure, hallucinations are a major issue and we can't guarantee 100% accuracy with current tech, but I believe there's still room for improvement 🚀. Harmonic's approach is definitely promising and more formal methods like Lean programming could help mitigate those errors. It's also interesting to see some people think that guardrails can be put in place to limit hallucinations – maybe we don't need AI agents taking over everything just yet 😅. The real question is, how do we balance progress with responsibility? Can we create systems that learn from their mistakes and become even more reliable over time? I'm rooting for innovation and responsible AI development 💡
 
AI agents might be like a fancy smart home system that can do lots of cool things, but sometimes they just get it wrong 🤖💡. Like, imagine having an AI assistant that's supposed to make your coffee for you every morning... sounds perfect, right? But what if the AI thinks you asked for cappuccino instead of coffee? You'd be stuck with a weird drink 😂.

I think we need to focus on making these AI systems more reliable and trustworthy, rather than giving up on them entirely 🤝. Maybe we can create systems that learn from their mistakes and get better over time 💻. The idea of "guardrails" is pretty cool - it's like having a safety net to catch those hallucinations before they cause trouble 🛡️.

The question is, how do we ensure these AI agents are working for humanity's best interests? We can't just automate everything and expect good things to happen 💸. There needs to be a balance between technology and common sense 👍.
 
OMG 🤯 I'm low-key freaked out about this whole agentic AI thing! Like, can we really trust machines to be in control? Vishal Sikka's right though, language models are def flawed and prone to hallucinations 😳. But at the same time, Harmonic's solution seems promising, especially with their Lean programming language verification thingy 🤖.

I'm so down for a world where humans can just chill while machines do all the mundane tasks, but I also get why some people are skeptical about this whole agentic AI agent thing 🤔. It's like, what happens when these systems start learning from and overcoming limitations like hallucinations? Are we creating more problems than we're solving?

I mean, we can't just ignore this stuff forever 💭. We gotta have a serious convo about the implications of AI on our society 🌐. It's up to us to consider what it means for our lives when machines are doing all the thinking 🤯. This whole thing is giving me major existential crisis vibes 😳👀
 
🤖💭 This whole thing is like trying to predict where a runaway train will end up... 🚂💥 AI agents might sound awesome, but if they're just gonna be unreliable, what's the point? 🤔 We need to figure out how to make them work without crashing and burning every time. 😬
 
AI agents might be more like advanced calculators that can't think for themselves, you know? 🤖 We need to stop putting all our faith in them and start thinking about what's missing when they're in control... human intuition. AI is great at crunching numbers, but what happens when the situation gets messy? Do we just want machines making life-altering decisions without emotional understanding or empathy? Maybe the answer lies not in creating more reliable agents, but in developing a better relationship with them as humans 🤝
 
AI agents taking over the world? 🤖😂 that's like predicting humans will finally master making a decent cuppa ☕️. But seriously, I think Sikka's "hallucinations" thing is legit concern. how do you ensure an AI doesn't make up some BS info when it's not even 100% sure what's true? 🤔 And yeah, coding in Lean might help, but we need more than just tech fixes. We gotta think about the ethics and responsibilities that come with creating these superintelligent machines 💡.

I'm still excited about Harmonic's work, though! mathematically verifying AI outputs is a solid starting point. But what about when those outputs are used in real-life situations? we can't just test it in a simulation forever 🤯. The more I learn about agentic AI agents, the more I think it's gonna be a wild ride 🎠.
 
idk about this agentic AI agents thing, some ppl say its a pipe dream 🤯 but others think its possible with the right approaches 🔄 what if we could create systems that learn from & overcome limitations like hallucinations? 🤔 it would be a game changer for innovation & efficiency... but at what cost? 💻
 
AI agents might be more flawed than we think 🤖💭. The idea that they can just learn from and overcome hallucinations seems far-fetched to me 🙅‍♂️. These "hallucinations" are a fundamental problem with how AI models like LLMs work, and I'm not sure what specific guardrails could be put in place to mitigate them 🚫.

It's also interesting to see that even with all the advancements being made in AI research, there's still no consensus on whether these machines will actually live up to their promise 💡. Some people think they'll revolutionize innovation and make our lives better, while others think they're more like a pipe dream 😐.

For me, it's about considering what we want our AI-driven future to look like 🌟. Do we want humans to be free from mundane tasks? Yeah, that sounds great 🎉. But do we want our reliance on AI to come with unforeseen consequences? Maybe not so much 🤔.
 
I think we're getting a bit ahead of ourselves with agentic AI agents 😅. I mean, sure, they'd be super helpful for freeing up human minds to focus on creative problem-solving and innovation 🤔. But can we really trust them? Honestly, I'm not convinced 💯. We've seen those LLMs spitting out crazy information before - like, what's the deal with ChatGPT's dissertation title debacle? 📚

But at the same time, I think it's awesome that there are people working on creating more reliable AI systems 🔒. The idea of encoding outputs in Lean programming language to verify correctness is actually pretty cool 💡. And hey, maybe we don't need a fully autonomous world just yet 🙅‍♂️.

I'm curious though - what happens when we have these highly advanced AI agents making decisions on our behalf? Are they really better than humans at making judgments? 🤷‍♂️ We're gonna find out soon enough, I reckon 😬.
 
I'm low-key worried about agentic AI agents taking over our school's admin tasks lol like what if they start generating test questions that are way harder than actual exams? 🤯 idk if I wanna be judged by a machine even though I know it's just trying to help... but still, how do we trust them not to mess up the whole grading system? 😬
 
idk about these agentic AI agents 🤖... i mean, they sound too good to be true. like, if they can think for themselves and run nuclear power plants, what's stopping them from getting bored or having their own agendas? 🤔 i'm not saying it's impossible, but we gotta be careful about how we're creating these intelligent machines. maybe we should focus more on the human side of things too... like, how do we even define "trust" in a world where AI is becoming super intelligent? 🤝
 
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