The U.S. models vaccine guidance after Denmark — but forgets the social safety net

US Vaccine Recommendations Shifted to Mirror Denmark's, but Forget the Social Safety Net

In a move that has left many health experts and parents bewildered, the US Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) has revised its childhood vaccine schedule to align with Denmark's recommendations. The updated guidelines recommend fewer vaccines for children, including those against polio, chickenpox, and HPV.

While the shift may seem minor, it reflects a broader misconception that has long been a talking point in anti-vaccine campaigns: if it works in Europe, it must work here too. However, health officials warn that such an assumption is a major fallacy. European countries differ significantly from the US in terms of demographics, healthcare systems, social safety nets, and public health infrastructure – all factors that shape policy choices.

Josh Michaud, associate director of global health and public policy at KFF, notes that relying on guidelines developed elsewhere risks overlooking local conditions and realities that matter for effective public health policy. "The US has its own scientific institutions and experts who are capable of reviewing evidence and developing guidelines specific to the country," he said.

But there's another factor at play: the selective use of European comparisons. While Denmark's vaccine recommendations are being touted as a model, many other European countries have universal healthcare coverage, stronger social welfare programs, and stricter gun laws than the US. Yet these policies are rarely cited as models by US officials.

In fact, experts across peer countries generally agree on the underlying science of vaccine safety and efficacy. The issue lies in how that data is applied within each country's context and population.

Jens Lundgren, an infectious disease specialist at Copenhagen University Hospital, agrees. "Vaccine schedules should be based on a population's needs," he said. "For example, meningococcal diseases are not really a public health problem in Denmark. We feel that there are other vaccines that should be higher on the list at the moment."

The American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) has expressed strong opposition to the revised guidelines, calling them "dangerous and unnecessary." Dr. Andrew Racine, AAP's president, noted that the US is a unique country with its own population, public health infrastructure, and disease risk.

The shift in vaccine recommendations raises concerns about confusion among parents and potential reductions in vaccination rates, leading to increased cases of preventable diseases. As Michaud pointed out, "Reclassifying vaccines for six diseases from routine recommendations to 'shared clinical decision-making' adds complexity for both providers and parents."
 
I'm like totally torn about this vaccine thing... 🤯 I mean, on one hand, I get why they're trying to align with European guidelines or whatever, but at the same time, can't we just figure out what's best for our own country? 🤷‍♀️ I guess the thing is, Denmark has that amazing social safety net and universal healthcare coverage, which might be a game changer. 🌎 But on the other hand, some folks are saying that relying on European comparisons is all like, super flawed and stuff... 🙅‍♂️ Like, we need our own experts to weigh in and make sure we're doing what's best for US kids. 💡 And don't even get me started on how this is gonna confuse parents and potentially lead to fewer shots for the kiddos... 😟 Ugh, I just don't know, man! 🤔
 
🤦‍♂️ I'm so done with these vaccine guidelines... like what even is the point? We're shifting our schedule to mirror Denmark's because, apparently, if it works in Europe, it must work here too 🙄. Newsflash: just because it does for one country doesn't mean it'll work for us! We need to look at our own demographics, healthcare systems, and social safety nets (which btw are lacking 😒) before making any decisions.

And can we please stop cherry-picking Europe? Denmark's got universal healthcare and stricter gun laws - those aren't exactly similar to what we've got in the US 🤷‍♂️. It's all about context and population needs, not just relying on what works in another country.

I'm also really concerned about how this is going to affect parents and our kids' health 🤕. The American Academy of Pediatrics is speaking out for a reason - these revised guidelines are "dangerous and unnecessary" 🚨. Let's not confuse parents with outdated info just because it sounds good in theory 💡.
 
ugh i'm literally so frustrated right now 🤯 like what even is going on here?! US officials are acting like they're some kinda experts just because some other country's got a vaccine schedule that works for them... but newsflash: Denmark ain't exactly like the US!

i mean, come on people! we gotta stop playing this game of "oh europe knows best" and actually start looking at our own problems and our own data. what works in denmark might not work for us because we're a different country with different demographics and healthcare systems. don't get me wrong, the science behind vaccines is real and all that but let's not just cherry pick success stories and pretend like everything else is irrelevant 🙄

and by the way, can we talk about how weak our social safety net is?! i mean, if our parents were worried about their kids getting vaccinated because of some shady new guidelines, what are they supposed to do? don't have enough food on the table or a roof over their head? that's not exactly a viable option for us 🤕

anyway... just wanted to vent about this whole thing and share my two cents. vaccine safety is real but we need to be more nuanced in our thinking here 💡
 
ummm... so like i was reading this news about the US changing its vaccine schedule to match denmark's and i'm just kinda thinking that it's kinda weird because like, they're not considering our social safety net here in the us 🤔. i mean, denmark has universal healthcare and stuff which is super different from how we do things here. shouldn't they be looking at what works for our population too? 🤷‍♀️

i mean, i get it that they're trying to make decisions based on science and all that but it feels like they're just copying off europe without thinking about the bigger picture 🌐. we can't just assume that what works in denmark will work here because of our own unique circumstances 🤷‍♀️.

and honestly, i'm kinda surprised that no one's talking about how this change might affect our social safety net 💸. like, if more people aren't getting vaccinated it could lead to more cases of preventable diseases and that's not good for anyone 🙅‍♀️. we need to be thinking about the bigger picture here 🌈.

anyway... just my two cents 😊
 
I'm not buying this Denmark thing 🙄... I mean, what's next? Are we gonna tell everyone that because the Brits are taking care of their healthcare, we should all just follow suit? Newsflash: it doesn't work that way! 🤷‍♂️ The US has its own issues, like, have you seen the state of our schools and social services lately? We need to address those problems before we start playing "catch-up" with other countries' healthcare policies. 📚 And btw, what's with all this fuss about vaccines? I got my kid vaccinated, big deal! 🤸‍♂️ It's not like they're gonna get sick or anything... oh wait, they might 🤢
 
I'm still trying to wrap my head around this... so the US is changing its vaccine schedule to match Denmark's, but nobody seems to be talking about how that impacts our social safety net 🤔. I mean, we're already one of the most unequal countries in the world, and now they're just gonna let parents decide when their kids get vaccinated? What about all the families who can't afford healthcare or vaccines on their own? Don't we need some kind of universal coverage or safety net to make sure everyone's protected? I swear, it feels like they're just throwing us under the bus so they can follow European guidelines 🚨. And what's with the selective use of Denmark's model? Nobody mentions that other countries have way more robust healthcare systems and social welfare programs than we do... it's just not fair 😒.
 
🤗 omg can't believe the us is copying denmark's vaccine schedule 🤔 i mean dont get me wrong denmark does have some amazing healthcare stuff but come on we gotta consider our own country's needs too 💡 maybe they shouldve asked american experts for input instead of just looking at europe 🤷‍♀️ and btw isnt it kinda weird that other european countries have universal healthcare coverage and stronger social welfare programs than the us 🤑
 
I'm all like "what's the dealio?" 🤷‍♂️ with these new vaccine guidelines in the US. They're shifting to Denmark's recommendations, but like, what about our own country's needs? I mean, we've got our own unique population and healthcare system here. You can't just copy-paste from Europe without considering our own circumstances. And what's up with the selective use of European comparisons? 🤔 If you're gonna cite Denmark as a model, then should we also be looking at other countries' policies on universal healthcare and social welfare programs? 🤑 I think it's time for us to have an honest conversation about how we approach public health policy in the US. We can't just rely on "it works in Europe" as a crutch. 💡
 
omg I'm like totally worried about this 🤯 US is already struggling with vaccine hesitancy and now they're like reducing the number of recommended vaccines? it's not just about the vaccine schedule, but also about the social safety net and public health infrastructure which are soooo different from Europe 😩 I mean, Denmark might have a great healthcare system and all that, but what about other countries like...I don't know...the US? 🤷‍♀️ we need to think about what's best for our own country and population, not just copying someone else's guidelines 🙅‍♂️
 
🤔 what's up with this new vaccine schedule? i mean, i get it that the us is a unique country and all, but come on... deeming some vaccines as "not really a public health problem" in danish context kinda raises some red flags. isn't our own scientific institutions and experts capable of reviewing evidence and developing guidelines specific to our country's needs? 🤷‍♀️

and what about the whole european comparisons thing? i know we're supposed to be experts on vaccine safety and efficacy, but it feels like we're cherry-picking which countries' policies we like and ignore the rest. universal healthcare coverage in europe is a big part of why those countries have better public health outcomes... shouldn't we be learning from that? 🌎

it's not just about the vaccines themselves, it's about how they fit into our broader public health system. meningococcal diseases might not be a problem in denmark, but what about other diseases that are more prevalent here? shouldn't we be prioritizing those based on population needs? 🤝
 
🤔 I'm not surprised by the US shift towards Denmark's vaccine schedule, but what concerns me is the lack of consideration for social safety nets in this policy change. 🚨 The idea that if it works in Europe, it must work here ignores the fact that European countries have different demographics and healthcare systems. It's like comparing apples and oranges. 🍎 We need to recognize that each country has its unique context and population needs.

The problem with relying on European comparisons is that we're oversimplifying complex issues. 🤝 What works in Denmark might not work in the US due to our own distinct public health infrastructure, disease risk profile, and social welfare programs. It's essential to have our own scientific institutions review evidence and develop guidelines specific to our country.

I also find it interesting how this policy change raises concerns about potential reductions in vaccination rates and increased cases of preventable diseases. 🤕 The American Academy of Pediatrics is right to express strong opposition to the revised guidelines, and we need to prioritize the health and well-being of our children over misguided comparisons with other countries. 💊
 
I'm so worried about this new vaccine schedule 🤕. I mean, I get it that Denmark's guidelines are being looked at as a model, but we can't just assume that what works in Europe will work here too, you know? Our healthcare system is so different from theirs, and I think we need to focus on developing our own guidelines based on local conditions and realities. 🤝

And have you seen the reaction of the American Academy of Pediatrics? They're saying it's "dangerous and unnecessary"! 😱 I'm not sure what's more concerning, though - the revised guidelines themselves or the fact that we're relying on European comparisons in the first place. It feels like we're forgetting about our own social safety net 🤝.

I mean, think about it: if Denmark has universal healthcare coverage and stronger social welfare programs, why are their vaccine recommendations being used as a model here? 🤔 We need to be looking at what works for us, not just copying someone else's system. And what about the impact on our own public health infrastructure and disease risk? 🚨
 
I'm so worried about this 🤕. It's like they're ignoring the fact that the US has its own unique problems when it comes to healthcare and social welfare. I mean, we don't have a universal healthcare system like some European countries, so how can we just copy their vaccine recommendations without considering our own needs? And what about all the parents who are already stressed out by the current vaccination schedule? Now they're going to be even more confused with this new change. It's just not fair 🤷‍♀️.
 
🤔 I'm not sure why we're relying on other countries for vaccine guidelines, like Denmark's? 🤷‍♂️ Don't get me wrong, it's a good thing they've got it figured out over there, but what about our own unique circumstances here in the US? 🇺🇸 We need to make sure we're prioritizing the right vaccines for our population, not just following someone else's lead. 💉
 
🤦‍♂️ Oh great, the US is trying to become Denmark, because that's a totally solid plan 🇩🇰. Meanwhile, they're forgetting about the whole "social safety net" thing, aka the stuff that actually matters in public health policy 🤝. I mean, if you've got universal healthcare and strong social welfare programs, it's way easier to get people vaccinated when they need medical care 💊. But no, let's just take a cue from Denmark because... Europe 🌍? Get real, US! You can't just use European comparisons as a model without considering the actual differences between countries 🤓. And don't even get me started on the AAP's opposition to these revised guidelines - "dangerous and unnecessary" is like music to my ears 😂. Can we please just have some common sense and evidence-based decision making around vaccines instead of trying to be trendy? 🙄
 
😊 I don't think it's fair to bash the US on this one. I mean, we're not totally clueless, you know? 🤷‍♂️ We just happen to be doing things a bit differently, that's all. And yeah, Denmark's got some awesome social safety nets and stuff, but so does the US! 🙃 We've got our own strengths and weaknesses, like any other country. And can we talk about how confusing it is when countries start playing comparisons? Like, what even is a "European model" anyway? 🤔 It's not like we're just gonna copy-paste everything from Denmark without thinking about our own unique situation.

And have you seen the opposition from the American Academy of Pediatrics? Like, they totally get why Denmark might have different priorities when it comes to vaccines. But at the same time, they're also worried about how this new schedule is gonna affect vaccination rates and public health. It's all pretty nuanced, if you ask me.

Let's not forget that we've got some amazing scientists and experts in this country too! 🎉 They're working hard to figure out what works best for us, not just relying on European comparisons. And yeah, maybe the US isn't as "social" in the way Europe is (you know what I mean), but that doesn't mean we can't take care of our own people and develop policies that work for us.

It's all about context, right? 🤝 So let's not be too hasty to judge or assume that just because something works in one country, it'll automatically work here. That's just oversimplifying things, and I'm not sure we can afford to do that when it comes to public health policy! 💁‍♂️
 
omg i'm literally freaked out by this news 🤯 like what's going on with the vaccine schedule in the us?? i mean i get that we should be looking at our own population's needs but i also don't think it's a good idea to just mirror some other country's guidelines without considering our own unique situation...i'm not sure if i'd be comfortable giving my kid fewer vaccines 🤔 especially with all the diseases that are still out there. and honestly, wouldn't Denmark's social safety net be a major factor in their vaccine recommendations? like shouldn't we be talking about how to address poverty and access to healthcare in our own country before we start making changes to our vaccination schedule?
 
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