Trump loomed over baseball's Hall of Fame. But voters still said no to Bonds and Clemens

The specter of Trump's influence cast a shadow over baseball's Hall of Fame this week. However, the vote by the Classic Era committee ultimately proved that the power of populism can be just as potent as the power of money and celebrity.

Despite the pressure from Trump, who championed Pete Rose's candidacy for induction into the Hall of Fame, voters still refused to give Bonds and Clemens a second chance. The fact that they were denied was not necessarily due to their on-field achievements or the controversy surrounding their use of performance-enhancing drugs (PEDs).

The real reason for the rejection lies in the way the game's integrity is perceived by its stakeholders. For many, the idea of allowing Bonds and Clemens into the Hall of Fame would be a tacit acceptance of the PED scandal that has hung over baseball for decades.

In reality, the vote was not just about two players but also about the values of the sport. It was a statement on the importance of accountability and the need to uphold the standards set by the game's past greats.

Manfred's decision to return Rose to the ballot and even consider reinstating Joe Jackson, a notorious figure from the Black Sox scandal, highlights the commissioner's willingness to adapt to changing times. However, this move also risks undermining the very fabric of the game by diluting its integrity.

Ultimately, the refusal to elect Bonds and Clemens is not just about their past mistakes but also about preserving the legacy of baseball as a sport that values fair play and sportsmanship above all else. The Hall of Fame's decision serves as a reminder that history matters, and the achievements of players like Kent, who was elected this week, are often overshadowed by the controversy surrounding other candidates.

While it may not be a triumphant victory for Bonds or Clemens, their exclusion is still a significant blow to the PED scandal that has plagued baseball for so long. It's a testament to the enduring power of tradition and the importance of accountability in maintaining the integrity of the game.
 
idk why people still think about trump's influence on this lol anyway, i think it's awesome that bonds & clemens got snubbed by the hall of fame πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ...it shows us that baseball values fair play and sportsmanship above all else 🏟️. its not just about the players' past mistakes, but also about preserving the legacy of the game πŸ’―. i mean, kent gets elected and people are like "yeah, finally!" 😊...but let's be real, it's a big deal that bonds & clemens didn't get in πŸ€”. baseball needs to keep pushing for accountability and integrity πŸ‘.
 
πŸ€” I'm surprised by how much the outcome of this vote was about more than just Bonds & Clemens' achievements. It feels like we're still trying to wash away the PED stain from baseball's past 🚿 The fact that their exclusion is seen as a statement on integrity and accountability makes me wonder if it's not time for the game to move forward, rather than constantly dwelling on the scandals of old πŸ’­
 
I gotta say, it's kinda weird that they didn't let Bonds & Clemens back in πŸ€”. I mean, you gotta admire their skills on the field, but at the same time, PEDs are just not cool πŸ˜’. It feels like baseball's trying to hold onto its history and tradition, which is pretty admirable, tbh πŸ‘. I'm glad they stuck to their guns and prioritized integrity over controversy πŸ’―. And yeah, it's kinda funny that Trump was pushing for Pete Rose's induction πŸ™„. Guess you could say he's still got a lot to learn about the game πŸ˜‚.
 
I'm kinda surprised by the whole thing πŸ€”. I think it says a lot about how much baseball values its history and the guys who set the standard. Like, Kent getting in this week is awesome, but at the same time, you can't just forget about what happened with Bonds and Clemens... it's like, they're still tied to that PED scandal 🌟. But I guess that's why they didn't get in - it's not just about their talent on the field, it's about how they represented the game back then. And I think that's kinda refreshing actually 😎
 
πŸ€” I think it's kinda cool how the Hall of Fame committee went against the grain this time. I mean, Trump had some influence, but the voters didn't cave. It's like they're saying, "Hey, we get what you're trying to do, but baseball isn't just about being popular – it's about maintaining its values." πŸ™Œ And can we talk about how Manfred is being a good commissioner by adapting to changing times? Like, returning Rose and Joe Jackson to the ballot shows he's not afraid to take risks. But at the same time, you gotta wonder if that's gonna water down the whole integrity thing... πŸ‘€
 
I dont get why they had to block Barry Bonds & Roger Clemens from getting into the Hall of Fame again πŸ€”... I mean, I know some people think its because of that PED scandal, but imo, just 'cause you did something wrong doesnt mean you can't be a legend in baseball. Its like when some famous actors get away with stuff in their personal life but still manage to do great work on screen 🎬. The Hall of Fame is all about achievements and greatness, not about what players did off the field... its kinda unfair to the guys who actually played clean ⚾️
 
I mean, can you believe it? The Hall of Fame just showed us that even with all the drama and controversy surrounding Bonds and Clemens, they're still not gonna get in πŸ€”. It's not about the guys themselves, it's about what it would say to the rest of baseball... like, if we let them in, does that mean the PEDs are okay? πŸ† I think Manfred is trying to make a point by giving Rose another shot and all, but at the same time, you can't just rewrite history, you know? It's like, Kent gets elected this week and everyone's all happy, but let's not forget that Bonds and Clemens were even in the running. I'm kinda stoked that they didn't get in though... it's like, baseball has standards, you feel me? πŸ’―
 
I'm still thinking about this whole thing... Like, I get where they're coming from but it feels like the Hall of Fame is trying to distance itself from the PED scandal by basically excluding Bonds and Clemens πŸ€”πŸ’ͺ. But at the same time, aren't we kinda doing the opposite by putting so much emphasis on their personal lives? Shouldn't we just be focusing on what they did on the field?

And can we talk about how this whole thing is connected to the legacy of baseball? Like, isn't it all about preserving the game's integrity and values? It feels like the Hall of Fame is trying to send a message but maybe it's getting lost in translation πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ.

I'm still wondering if we're missing the point here... What are your thoughts on this whole thing? Should we be focusing more on what players have done off the field or should we just stick with their on-field achievements? πŸ€”πŸ‘€
 
I think the Hall of Fame made the right call, it's not just about Bonds and Clemens, but what it says about the values of baseball as a whole πŸ™Œ. I mean, if we start letting guys with PEDs into the Hall, where do we draw the line? It's like they're saying "Hey, we know you cheated, but hey, you were awesome on the field" πŸ˜’. And that's not fair to the players who did play clean and set an example for others.

I'm all for giving guys a second chance, but not at the cost of integrity πŸ€”. It's like they're saying "We value your on-field performance over your character". That's not what baseball is about, it's about being a role model and setting an example for kids and young players everywhere πŸ‘§.

And yeah, I get that Manfred is trying to be more inclusive, but this move could have unintended consequences πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ. If we start letting in guys with PEDs, what's next? The Black Sox scandal? It's all about finding a balance between giving credit where credit is due and maintaining the integrity of the game πŸ’―.
 
This whole thing got me thinking - how much do we value history and tradition over personal agendas? I mean, Trump was pushing for Bonds and Clemens just because they were his buddies, but the voters stood firm, saying that the integrity of the game is more important than just giving everyone a free pass. It's kinda like when we're trying to make sense of our own lives - sometimes you gotta let go of what you want and focus on what's right, even if it means hurting someone else in the process. The Hall of Fame might have made a tough call, but at least they stayed true to themselves πŸ€”πŸ’ͺ
 
the way baseball handles this stuff is super interesting πŸ€”... i think it's cool that they're trying to maintain some sort of balance between letting players move on from their past mistakes and keeping the integrity of the game intact πŸ†... but at the same time, doesn't it feel kinda harsh on guys like bonds and clemens? they've already paid the price for their actions, you know? πŸ‘Ž... i think that's what makes this whole thing so complex... it's not just about the players or the PEDs, it's about the values of the game as a whole πŸ’―...
 
I'm thinking about how weird it is that we're still having this conversation about players who were accused of cheating back when baseball was already a shadow of its former self πŸ€”. I mean, what's next? Are we gonna put Tiger Woods in the golf hall of fame for his scandalous divorce and infidelity? It feels like no matter how many times we try to sweep it under the rug, our sports are still gonna be defined by these dark moments πŸ’”.
 
I'm kinda surprised they didn't let Bonds and Clemens back in πŸ€”... I mean, don't get me wrong, it's all about preserving the legacy of baseball being fair and sportsmanlike, but at the same time, those guys are like, super talented and all that jazz πŸ’ͺ. It feels like a bit of a double standard to me, where some players can get away with stuff and others... not so much πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ. I guess it's all about maintaining the integrity of the game, but it's also kinda cool that they're still holding out for players who are clean πŸ’―. Now, I'm curious to see how Manfred's decisions will play out in the future... it's like, is he trying to change the rules or what? πŸ€”
 
I think its kinda funny how Trumps influence is being talked about like hes still in office 🀣. But seriously, I can see why the HOF committee voted down Bonds & Clemens - its not just about them, its about the values of the game. As a parent, I want my kids to learn about hard work, fair play & sportsmanship. If we allow players who have used PEDs into the HOF, whats next? Are we gonna give 'em a trophy for showing up?

I mean, I get that Manfred's trying to adapt to changing times, but maybe thats exactly what's wrong. We're already seeing players like Rose & Jackson getting a second chance - where does it end? Its not about punishing them in the past, its about maintaining the integrity of the game for future generations.

Its also interesting how this decision affects the legacy of players who did play clean. I mean, Kent was elected this week, but what about all the other players who were robbed of their chance at HOF glory due to PEDs? Its a tough call, but im glad they stuck to their guns on this one 🀝
 
I think the fact that they didn't let Bonds & Clemens into the Hall of Fame was actually a pretty smart move πŸ€”. I mean, sure, it's nice to give them credit for their achievements on the field, but at the end of the day, they got caught cheating and it tarnishes the whole game. If we let them in, it would be like saying that getting caught with your hand in the cookie jar is okay πŸ˜’. The Hall of Fame is all about celebrating the players who played by the rules and set a good example. And I think that's what this vote was really about - preserving the integrity of the game πŸ’ͺ.
 
I think the Hall of Fame made a pretty clear decision this week πŸ™Œ. It wasn't about personal opinions on Bonds and Clemens' past mistakes, but more about preserving the sport's values - fairness, sportsmanship, and accountability. The fact that they voted down PED users sends a strong message about what baseball stands for. Its not just about their achievements on the field, but how they conducted themselves off it. It's like, if you cheat, you get benched... permanently πŸ˜…. And I think the voters did the right thing.
 
The Hall of Fame just dropped a major bombshell 🀯! I'm totally on team "no PEDs" here, tbh πŸ’β€β™€οΈ. It's all about preserving that classic baseball vibe you know? Like, sure Bonds and Clemens are legends and all, but their involvement in thePED scandal kinda taints everything they did on the field πŸ€”.

I'm loving how Commissioner Manfred is taking a step back to let the game breathe, though πŸ‘Œ. Returning Pete Rose to the ballot was like a nod to the past, you feel? But it also brings up some interesting questions about, like, what does "integrity" even mean in baseball anymore? 🀯

For me, the real MVP here is the entire voting committee for sticking to their guns πŸ’ͺ. It's not just about the players; it's about the values of the sport and its fans πŸ‘₯. We want that fair play and sportsmanship stuff to shine through on those induction ballots ✨.

Anyway, this Hall of Fame decision is like a big ol' middle finger to the PED scandal 🀜🏽. It's saying, "Hey, we value tradition and accountability over all else!" πŸ’― Kent getting in with that win is like a sweet bonus prize 🎁!
 
πŸ™„ I'm getting tired of these "classic era" committees making decisions based on the PR spin rather than actual performance on the field πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ. Pete Rose got a second chance just because Trump gave him a shout-out, but what about Bonds and Clemens? They're basically guilty by association with PEDs yet they're still not getting in πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ. It's all about preserving the "integrity" of the game now πŸ€₯...like it wasn't already a joke when they let Rose come back on, no one really cares about that πŸ˜’. And what's next? Joe Jackson getting reinstated? That just seems like a PR stunt to keep the old guard happy πŸ‘€. The PED scandal needs to be addressed head-on, not just swept under the rug with some feel-good vote 🀬.
 
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