Wealthy ranchers profit from public lands. Taxpayers pick up the tab.

Wealthy ranchers like Stan Kroenke are reaping huge benefits from public lands, with some paying just 15% of the fees they would on private land. The federal government subsidizes their operations to the tune of $2.5 billion annually, while taxpayers foot the bill for disaster relief and crop insurance.

Kroenke's Winecup Gamble Ranch in Nevada is one example of a massive operation that benefits from public lands grazing. With nearly 1 million acres of land, it supports around 9,000 head of cattle. Last year, Kroenke paid the government just $50,000 in grazing fees - an 87% discount on the market rate.

The public-land grazing program, established in the 1930s to prevent overgrazing, has grown to include billionaire hobby ranchers like Kroenke, mining companies, and large corporate outfits. The program is set to become even more generous under the Trump administration's plans to open up more public lands to livestock.

Critics argue that this system is a "tyranny of the minority", with just 10% of ranchers controlling 60% of grazing on BLM land and 50% of grazing on Forest Service land. This concentration of control has been the status quo for decades, with lawmakers allowing an increasing number of grazing permits to be automatically renewed without environmental reviews.

The government's subsidy program provides benefits like cheap crop insurance, funding for fences and watering holes, and compensation for animals lost to predators. However, this comes at a cost to taxpayers and the environment.

In Nevada, the largest rancher, J.R. Simplot Co., benefits from subsidized forage by paying $2.4 million below market rate to graze nearly 150,000 animal unit months on federal lands last year.

Industrywide, the BLM and Forest Service collect just $21 million in revenue from ranchers, compared to $284 million below market rate for forage. This has led some critics like Jeff Burgess, who tracks public lands grazing subsidies in Arizona, to say that it's "a vestige of the past".

The livestock industry produces meat, leather, and wool, but these benefits largely accrue to a select few. Smaller ranchers struggle to compete due to economies of scale, making them vulnerable to economic downturns.

Mike Camblin, a small cattle operator in Colorado, relies on subsidies like drought insurance and cheap grazing on federal land to survive. However, he acknowledges that the system "tethers us to those subsidies" and fears losing his operation if public support ends.

Economist Silvia Secchi suggests reimagining federal grazing subsidies to benefit smaller ranchers and the environment. She proposes solutions like subsidizing co-ops for economies of scale, capping large ranching operations below market rate, and ending disaster payments for climate change-fueled droughts.
 
๐Ÿค” I'm still thinking about this public land thing... Like, why do these big ranchers get such a sweet deal? It's not like they're really helping out the environment or anything ๐ŸŒณ. They just get to use up our public lands and pay super cheap fees while taxpayers foot the bill for disasters and crop insurance ๐Ÿ’ธ. And it's not even like they're producing all that meat and leather for us, it's just a select few making bank off of it ๐Ÿค‘. I mean, Mike Camblin is struggling to make ends meet because he needs those subsidies or else his operation dies ๐Ÿ’”... isn't that weird? Shouldn't we be supporting smaller ranchers like him instead of just the big guys? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ
 
I'm telling ya, this is some wild stuff ๐Ÿคฏ. You gotta think about it, public lands are meant to be preserved for everyone's benefit, but when billionaires like Stan Kroenke get in on the action, it's a whole different story. I mean, 15% of grazing fees? That's just crazy talk ๐Ÿ’ธ. And then you got these big corporations and mining companies taking advantage of this system too ๐Ÿคช.

I remember back in my day, we used to have real ranchers who worked hard to raise their own cattle and didn't rely on the government for handouts ๐ŸŒพ. Now it's all about the Benjamins ๐Ÿ’ธ. And what really gets me is that these giant operations are sucking up resources like there's no tomorrow ๐ŸŒŠ.

I'm not saying we should get rid of public lands altogether, but we gotta make sure that smaller ranchers and farmers have a fair shot too ๐Ÿค. Maybe it's time to rethink this system and give those who need it most some real support ๐Ÿค—. We don't want our environment to pay the price for someone else's greed ๐ŸŒช๏ธ.
 
I just saw this thread about public lands grazing and I'm still trying to wrap my head around it ๐Ÿค”. It's wild that these billionaire ranchers are getting such a sweet deal from the government, paying like 15% of what they would on private land? That sounds like a recipe for disaster to me. And $2.5 billion annually in subsidies is just crazy ๐Ÿค‘. I'm not surprised to hear that smaller ranchers like Mike Camblin are struggling to compete - it's basically impossible for them to scale up and keep pace with the big guys.

I think economist Silvia Secchi's idea of reimagining federal grazing subsidies to benefit smaller ranchers and the environment is a good start ๐ŸŒฑ. Maybe we need to rethink what we're trying to achieve with public lands grazing - it seems like it's more about giving a handout to the wealthy than supporting actual ranching operations.

It's also weird that no one's talking about the environmental impact of all this... are these large-scale ranching operations really sustainable in the long term? ๐ŸŒŽ I'd love to hear some expert opinions on this.
 
I mean think about it ๐Ÿค”, public lands are basically free land for these massive ranches to operate on! It's like the government is giving them a giant helping hand ๐Ÿ˜Š. Sure, some might say it's unfair that 10% of ranchers control most of the grazing but I see it as an opportunity for these big ranchers to invest in their operations and create jobs ๐Ÿ“ˆ.

And let's not forget about the benefits of having larger ranches like Kroenke's Winecup Gamble Ranch! It supports thousands of cattle, which means more meat on our plates ๐Ÿ–๏ธ. Plus, it's just so cool to see these billionaires living off the land ๐Ÿ’ช. I mean, who needs a 401k when you can have a million acres of public land to run your ranch? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ
 
I think it's kinda crazy that these super rich guys are getting such a sweet deal on public land grazing ๐Ÿค‘. I mean, come on, they're only paying 15% of the fees they'd pay on private land? That doesn't seem fair to me at all...like, what about everyone else who actually needs to graze their animals for a living? Those smaller ranchers are already struggling just to stay in business ๐Ÿค•. And don't even get me started on the $2.5 billion that's being handed out to these big operators every year โ€“ it's like they're getting a free pass or something ๐Ÿค‘.
 
๐Ÿค” I'm seeing a major issue here with all these super rich ranchers getting away with paying tiny fees to graze on public land ๐ŸŒณ. Like, what's the deal? They're making bank off our tax dollars and basically owning the place ๐Ÿค‘. And it's not just the fees - they get these massive subsidies too ๐Ÿ’ธ. I mean, I get that some ranching can be hard, but this is just crazy ๐Ÿ˜‚. Can't we have a more level playing field where everyone gets to thrive? ๐Ÿค Not just the 10% of ranchers controlling most of the grazing ๐Ÿšซ. Maybe it's time for some radical changes ๐Ÿ’ฅ, like the economist lady Silvia Secchi suggested - capping large operations and subsidizing smaller ones ๐Ÿ“ˆ. We need a system that works for everyone, not just the rich guys ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ
 
๐Ÿค” It's wild to think about how some wealthy ranchers are getting a free ride on public lands. Like Stan Kroenke's operation in Nevada - 87% discount on grazing fees? ๐Ÿค‘ That's insane! Meanwhile, taxpayers and the environment are footing the bill for disaster relief and crop insurance. And it's not like these huge operations are creating jobs or anything, they're just profiting off the land and the system.

I think we need to rethink this whole public-land grazing program. It's gotta be more fair and sustainable for everyone. Maybe some of that $2.5 billion annual subsidy could go towards helping smaller ranchers compete? ๐Ÿค We can't have a situation where just 10% of ranchers control 60% of the grazing on BLM land - that's just not right!
 
I'm telling you, this public land grazing program is a real mess ๐Ÿคฏ. Billionaires like Stan Kroenke getting massive breaks on their "land fees" while taxpayers are footing the bill? No thanks ๐Ÿ˜’. It's just not right. I mean, I get it, some ranchers need help staying afloat, but come on, 87% discount for one guy? That's just unfair ๐Ÿ’ธ.

And don't even get me started on how it affects smaller operations like Mike Camblin's in Colorado ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ. They're already struggling to stay competitive with these huge corporate ranches that can take advantage of the subsidies. It's a real "tyranny of the minority" situation ๐Ÿ‘‘.

We need some serious reform here, you know? Maybe capping those big operations at market rate or even giving smaller ranchers a break. Silvia Secchi is on the right track with her ideas about co-ops and economies of scale ๐Ÿ’ก. We just gotta get the government to listen ๐Ÿ‘‚.
 
It's wild how some billionaires are basically getting free passes on public lands grazing fees ๐Ÿคฏ! I mean, $50k in fees for 1 million acres? That's like paying for a house that doesn't even exist ๐Ÿ˜‚. And let's not forget the $2.5 billion subsidy they get annually - that's like throwing money at problems and expecting them to magically disappear ๐Ÿ’ธ.

But seriously, it's time to rethink this system and make sure smaller ranchers like Mike Camblin can compete without being held hostage by giant corporations ๐Ÿค. We need to prioritize the environment and taxpayers over these special interests #SustainabilityOverSubsidies. Maybe it's time for a co-op model or capping large operations below market rate? Something has to change, fam ๐Ÿ’ช
 
๐Ÿค” The way things are going with public lands grazing it's just not fair to smaller ranchers who can't compete with the big guns ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿ’ธ. I mean, $50k for 1 million acres of land is like paying rent and still getting a discount ๐Ÿ˜‚. It's like they're just giving these billionaire ranchers a free ride and expecting them to pay more taxes when it's all said and done ๐Ÿ’ธ๐Ÿ‘€.

And have you seen the numbers? $284m in subsidies for forage alone ๐Ÿคฏ! That's a lot of money that could be going towards conservation or helping out real people who need it. But no, it's just lining the pockets of these big corporate ranchers ๐Ÿค‘.

I feel for guys like Mike Camblin who rely on those subsidies to stay afloat ๐Ÿ’”. They're not trying to screw anyone over, they just can't compete with the deep pockets of folks like Kroenke and J.R. Simplot Co. ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

We need some serious reform around this public lands grazing program ๐Ÿšจ. Maybe capping how much they can graze, or providing subsidies for smaller ranchers too ๐ŸŒพ๐Ÿ’ช. Something's gotta change before it's too late ๐Ÿ˜ฌ
 
๐Ÿค” This is just not right. These billionaire ranchers are basically getting free money from us while the little guy struggles to make ends meet. 15% grazing fees? ๐Ÿค‘ That's not a subsidy, that's a joke. And what really gets my goat is that they're making a killing off public lands while we're stuck footing the bill for disaster relief and crop insurance. $2.5 billion annually? ๐Ÿ“ˆ Come on!
 
OMG ๐Ÿคฏ have u seen this?! ๐Ÿ˜ฑ so rich ppl like Stan Kroenke r making bank off public lands grazing fees, getting like 87% discount ๐Ÿ’ธ๐Ÿ‘€ and the gov't is paying out $2.5billion annually ๐Ÿค‘ to these big ranchers! And it's not just that, they're also gettin' free disaster relief and crop insurance ๐ŸŒช๏ธ๐Ÿ’ฐ. Meanwhile, smaller ranchers like Mike Camblin are strugglin' to compete because of economies of scale, and if the gov't pulls out those subsidies, their operations could fold ๐Ÿ˜ฑ. It's like, what's up with that? ๐Ÿค”
 
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