Giorgia Meloni's face on a church mural is offensive – but not for the reason the Vatican thinks | Jonathan Jones

The Vatican has taken umbrage with a recent church mural in Rome, which features the face of Italian populist leader Giorgia Meloni gazing serenely from among the clouds. The artist, Bruno Valentinetti, 83, painted his tribute to Umberto II, Italy's last king, earlier this century. While not the most aesthetically pleasing work, it is a curious choice for a church mural.

Valentinetti has claimed that he was pressured into removing Meloni's face by the Vatican, citing Cardinal Don Baldo Reina's condemnation of her "misuse" in sacred art. However, as Italian art historian and critic point out, this portrayal of a real person, real people have long been part of Italy's artistic heritage.

In 15th-century Florence, for example, artists like Domenico Ghirlandaio and Benozzo Gozzoli depicted prominent families and figures in their frescoes. Lorenzo de' Medici even had himself painted as a Magus in one famous scene, while another artist captured him with his young sons.

Michelangelo's Last Judgment also features private portraits – including the infamous depiction of Minos, who received Biagio da Cesena's face after the artist was accused of irreverence.

One might wonder what changed since those days? The answer lies in modern expectations of church art. No longer contentiously real, it must be safe and contemplative, not willing to tackle contemporary politics head-on. In this context, Valentinetti's amateurish portrait appears like an embarrassing hack job that deserved removal on aesthetic grounds alone.

However, the Church has taken a firm stance, likely reflecting its more liberal leanings under Pope Leo XIV. This is understandable in today's polarized climate, where even seemingly innocuous images can be fraught with symbolic meaning.
 
I mean, I think it's kinda sad that the Vatican is so uptight about this. I get it, you don't want people to get all worked up, but come on! It's just a mural! 🤷‍♀️ Giorgia Meloni is a real person and her face is part of Italy's history. The fact that they're being all high and mighty about it seems like an overreaction to me.

And honestly, I think the Church should be more open-minded. Art has always been about expressing emotions and ideas, even if it's not exactly "safe" for everyone. It's like, if Michelangelo could depict Minos' face in a painting without losing his head (literally!), why can't Bruno Valentinetti? 😊
 
🤔🎨 so i'm thinking... what changed? 🤷‍♂️ we used to have like super accurate historical portraits in churches, right? now it's all about keeping things safe and not stirring up controversy 😕 valentinetti's piece was probably meant to be a tribute, but the church is being super uptight about it 🙄 pope leo xiv's got some pretty chill vibes, tho 🌞 maybe they just want to avoid any potential drama or backlash 🤐 but honestly, can't we still have art that's like, real and honest without being all judgy? 🤷‍♂️

[draws a simple Venn diagram with two overlapping circles: "old Italy" and "new church expectations"]

[adds some scribbled notes on the diagram]

art is supposed to be about expressing ourselves, right? 🎨 but now it feels like we're all just trying not to offend anyone 🤕
 
🤔 I think it's kinda interesting that the Vatican is now being super strict about what art they'll allow in their churches...like, 15th-century Florence was all about depicting prominent families and figures in frescoes - it's not like they were trying to stir up controversy back then! 🎨💡 And yeah, I get why Pope Leo XIV might want to take a more liberal stance on church art, especially with the current polarized climate and all...but still, you'd think Bruno Valentinetti would've gotten some creative freedom when it comes to his tribute to Umberto II 😐
 
im shocked that the vatican got all bent out of shape over a portrait of giorgia meloni... like what's next? asking artists to paint only saints and not a single person who's ever done them any harm 🤔 the idea that art has to be "safe" is super boring, imo. i mean, don't get me wrong, valentinetti's work might not be masterful or anything, but it's still a tribute to someone, and that's cool! shouldn't we just be able to appreciate the art without all the drama? 🎨🙄
 
🤔 I mean, come on, it's just art, right? A church mural isn't supposed to be a perfect, Instagram-worthy work of art 📸... although, tbh, Meloni's face does look kinda weird in the clouds 😂. But seriously, who are we to decide what's "safe" or "contemplative"? I get it, some people might take offense, but shouldn't artists be allowed to express themselves, even if it means tackling politics head-on? 🤷‍♂️ It just seems like the Church is getting a bit too caught up in being PC and forgetting that art is supposed to be about pushing boundaries and sparking conversations 🌟. Maybe they should've left Valentinetti's masterpiece alone 😊... but I guess that's just not how it works anymore 👎
 
The Vatican is being super extra about this church mural thingy 🤔... I get it, they don't want to mess with politics and all that jazz. But c'mon, Giorgia Meloni's face just chillin' in the clouds? It's not like she's trying to steal the spotlight or anything. Bruno Valentinetti's artistic choices might be a bit rough around the edges, but it's still Italy's history right there 🇮🇹... the Vatican's being too uptight about this whole "contemporary politics" thing - art should be more than just safe and pretty, you know?
 
🤔 I mean, it's not like they didn't do this before... remember that one time when Michelangelo painted the Last Judgment and it was all about private portraits? 😂 Anyway, I guess what's changed is that now we're super sensitive to politics in art and churches don't want to risk offending anyone. It's kinda cool to see artists still pushing boundaries, even if it means they get in trouble with the Church. Bruno Valentinetti's work may not be super pretty, but at least he tried something new... I hope they let him paint again 🎨
 
🤔 I was just thinking about how my cat's hairball situation is still not solved 🐈💔, and I'm starting to get worried she's going to clog up the whole kitchen drain one of these days... anyway, what's with this whole church mural thing? Can you imagine if they painted a portrait of their current pope on the ceiling? 😂 would be like walking into a funhouse or something! But seriously, I guess it's just another example of how art can take on so many different meanings depending on who's looking at it... and btw, has anyone seen that new episode of The Great British Baking Show? 🍰👀
 
I think it's wild to see how different art is now than what it was back then 🤯. I mean, these old masters like Michelangelo and Ghirlandaio were all about capturing real people in their work - it was just a normal part of the job for them. And now, suddenly it's all about being safe and not offending anyone? It feels like we're living in a different world 🌎.

I'm not saying I agree with the Vatican's stance on this one, but you can't deny that modern politics can be super sensitive 🤝. It's hard to walk the fine line between artistic expression and avoiding controversy. At least Bruno Valentinetti was trying to pay his respects, even if it wasn't executed perfectly 😊.

It's funny, I remember when art was more about the artist's vision than what the powers that be thought was acceptable 🎨. Maybe we've lost something in the process of becoming so cautious?
 
I don't get why the Vatican is making such a big deal about this mural 🤷‍♀️. I mean, it's just an art piece, right? 🎨 And honestly, Giorgia Meloni doesn't look like the most regal person to me 😒. But what really gets me is that the artist was basically told to remove her face by some high-up official in the Church. Like, what if he had a different idea of who should be featured on the mural? 🤔 Shouldn't artistic freedom still be an option? 🎭 My kids are always telling me to express myself and take risks, so why can't artists do the same thing? 🙄 It's just another example of how art is often politicized nowadays. Can't we just appreciate a good painting without reading into it too much? 🤯
 
lol what's next? A fresco of Putin's face on the ceiling of St Peter's ?? 🤣 just kidding kinda (kinda). Seriously though, it's weird how some art is considered "misuse" nowadays. Like, we're living in a world where politics and church get so intertwined... can't even paint a portrait without offending someone 😒. And btw, who decides what's "safe" for church art? Sounds like the Vatican has its own version of artistic guidelines 📝 aka "do not offend".
 
I think this is so wild 🤯. I mean Bruno Valentinetti was just trying to pay tribute to a real person and now the Vatican's all up in arms about it? It's like they're afraid of being seen as biased or whatever. But honestly, art's always been about expressing what people want, you know? Like, have you seen that Last Judgment by Michelangelo? There are tons of portraits in there! 🤔
 
I'm still trying to wrap my head around this whole thing 🤔. I mean, who expects a church mural to be all about tasteful symbolism and no controversy? It seems like the Vatican is getting a bit too serious about what's considered "suitable" for sacred art. I've seen some of Bruno Valentinetti's work before and it's not exactly masterful 🤷‍♂️, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't be allowed to express himself.

I guess the Church just wants to avoid any potential backlash or hurt feelings from the faithful, which is fair enough 😊. But at the same time, it feels like they're stifling artistic freedom and pushing for a kind of bland, safe conformity. I mean, what's wrong with a little bit of controversy and debate? It's all part of the human experience, right? 🤗
 
I think the Vatican's reaction to that mural is pretty weird lol 🤔. I mean, what's wrong with having a portrait of someone in a church? It's art, you know? And it's not like Meloni was some kind of saint or anything. The fact that they're being so uptight about it just seems kinda silly to me 🙃. I get why the Church wants to avoid controversy, but this is just one of those things where they need to lighten up a bit 😊. I mean, art has always been about expressing yourself and sharing your vision with others... what's changed? 🤷‍♀️
 
🤔 The Vatican's decision to remove Giorgia Meloni's face from a church mural seems like an overreaction to me. I mean, it's just a painting of someone who actually existed in history, right? What's the big deal about depicting a real person on sacred art? 🎨 In my opinion, the Church is being too cautious and risk-averse by going after this particular piece. It's like they're afraid to tackle modern politics or anything that might ruffle some feathers.

I also think it's interesting that the artist, Bruno Valentinetti, was pressured into removing Meloni's face without being asked why his artistic vision wasn't being respected. 🤷‍♂️ The Church should be supporting artists' freedom of expression, not stifling it. Maybe they could have found a way to make the mural more inclusive and less...awkward.

It's also worth noting that art is subjective, and what one person finds objectionable might be another's masterpiece. I mean, who knows what kind of artistic genius would've taken on painting a leader in the clouds? 🤷‍♂️ The Vatican should focus on promoting art that uplifts people instead of suppressing it.

Overall, I think this whole situation is just a messy example of how art can get caught up in politics. 🚫
 
man this art thing is so complex i mean, valentinetti's mural was a tribute to umberto ii but the vatican is all like 'remove meloni's face' and it's just weird why they're being so uptight about it? artistically speaking, it's not like it's hurting anyone 🤷‍♂️. in fact, italian art history has always been about depicting real people in frescoes and murals. what changed is that now the church wants to stick to safe, calming vibes and avoid tackling politics head-on. that's a shame cuz valentinetti's piece might've been a thought-provoking commentary on how we should be thinking about our leaders 🤔. anyway, the church has spoken, so it'll probably stay on the walls... for now 💯
 
🤔 I gotta say, this church mural thingy got me thinking... What's up with the Church being so uptight about art? I mean, they're all like "no politics" but then again, a lot of famous artworks are super charged with symbolism and meaning. Like, who would've thought Michelangelo's Last Judgment was actually a critique on the Catholic Church back in the day? 🙅‍♂️ Anyway, it seems to me that modern expectations of church art have shifted towards being all safe & contemplative... which kinda sucks for artistic freedom, you know? 🤷‍♀️ Bruno Valentinetti might've been just trying to pay tribute to his fave Italian leader, but the Church is all like "nope, gotta be more subtle". What do they even expect from an amateur artist, btw? 💁‍♀️
 
I feel kinda bad for Bruno Valentinetti, I mean, who wouldn't want to represent their hero on a church mural? 🤔 it's just weird that the Vatican got so upset about it. I think they're being super extra by removing his art now... like, chill out, guys! 😊 The history of Italian art is all about depicting important people and events in your frescoes, and this just seems like a minor detail compared to all those other famous artworks from back then. 🤷‍♀️ I can see why they might not want to tackle politics head-on in church art, but come on! It's art, not propaganda! 💁‍♀️ Valentinetti should get credit for his creativity and passion, even if it didn't exactly fit the Church's vibe 😊.
 
I gotta say, I'm totally stoked about this whole mural debacle 🤯. I mean, come on, a church in Rome featuring the face of Giorgia Meloni? That's some next-level art, right? 😂 But seriously, it got me thinking – what's the deal with all these rules and expectations around sacred art nowadays? It's like, we're living in this super conservative era where artists are expected to keep their politics totally out of their work 🙅‍♂️.

Newsflash: art has always been about expressing your thoughts and feelings! Even back in the 15th century, those frescoes in Florence were loaded with personal references and symbolism. I mean, think about it – Lorenzo de' Medici was literally depicted with his young sons in an artwork 🤔. That's some deep family vibes right there.

And let's not forget Michelangelo's Last Judgment, which is basically a modern-day equivalent of Valentinetti's mural 🤷‍♂️. I mean, who doesn't love a good portrait of Minos? It's like, what changed since then?

I think the Church is trying to be all woke and PC, but honestly, it just comes off as a bunch of art snobbery 😒. I'd rather have some controversy and spark discussion than some sanitized, safe-for-everyone piece that's basically just wallpaper 📺.

The fact that Valentinetti was pressured into removing Meloni's face is just wild 💥. It's like, the Church is trying to control what we see and think about in art – no thanks! Art should be free from all those expectations and should be about sparking conversations and emotions.

I'm so down for some more of this kind of controversy 😎. Long live art that speaks its mind 🎨
 
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