Judge skeptical of Pentagon's efforts to punish Democratic Sen. Mark Kelly over "illegal orders" video

Federal Judge Questions Pentagon's Attempt to Punish Sen. Mark Kelly Over Speech

A federal judge expressed skepticism over the Pentagon's efforts to downgrade the pay and rank of Democratic Senator Mark Kelly (AZ) for publicly urging service members not to follow unlawful military orders. The action comes after Kelly, a retired Navy captain, sued Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth in January claiming he was targeted by "extreme rhetoric and punitive retribution" from the Trump administration.

Kelly received a censure letter from Hegseth alleging that his public criticism undermined the chain of command and counseled disobedience among military ranks. The Pentagon later announced it would re-evaluate Kelly's retirement pay grade.

In a 45-minute court hearing, U.S. District Judge Richard Leon expressed concern over the Justice Department's arguments that speech limitations typically imposed on active-duty officers should be extended to include retired service members like Kelly.

"That's never been done," Leon told the Justice Department attorney. "You're asking me to do something that the Supreme Court has never done. That's a bit of a stretch, is it not?"

Kelly's lawyers argue that the Pentagon's actions are an unlawful attempt to stifle his First Amendment right to free speech, which could also chill the speech of every retired veteran in the country.

The judge hopes to rule on the issue by February 11, giving the parties time to appeal. Kelly believes he has the Constitution on his side and expressed appreciation for the judge's quick consideration of the case.
 
πŸ€” idk how they can just downgrade someones pay because they spoke out about something that was super wrong... like, shouldn't they be incentivized to speak up instead? πŸ€‘ it seems like they're trying to silence a vet who's got a legit reason to be upset and i think that's not right at all πŸ’”
 
omg 🀯 can u even believe this πŸ™„? like mark kelly was just trying to tell some guys not to follow orders that were clearly wrong and now the pentagon is trying to punish him? πŸ’” what's next? are they gonna take away people's freedom of speech just because someone says something unpopular? πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ judge richard leon seems like a total hero for calling out the pentagon on this one πŸ‘ i mean, i get that mark kelly is a senator and all, but come on, he was just trying to do the right thing! πŸ’ͺ let's hope the justice department doesn't try to appeal this and that the judge makes the right decision soon πŸ•°οΈ
 
I'm so confused about this whole thing 🀯... I mean, I get why Sen. Kelly was saying what he did - it seems like a big no-no to disobey orders, right? But is it fair that he gets punished for speaking out? I don't know if the Pentagon's actions are exactly "punishment", but still, it feels kinda unfair πŸ€”... And can we talk about how this whole thing started? Like, why did the Trump administration even try to target him in the first place? Was it just a case of trying to silence someone who spoke out against something they disagreed with? It's weird that the Justice Department is all like "this has never been done before", but I'm pretty sure that's not a good enough excuse πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ...
 
omg, can't believe what's goin' down 🀯! So like, the Pentagon is tryna punish Sen Mark Kelly for speakin' out against unlawful military orders? That's straight-up crazy talk 🚫! I mean, isn't it their job to protect ppl from bad leadership not to silence 'em? And now they're tryna downgrade his pay grade and all that drama... it's like, hello?! Free speech is free speech, no matter if you're active duty or retired πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ. I'm lovin' how Sen Kelly is standin' up for himself and for the rights of other vets too πŸ’ͺ! Can't wait to see what the judge decides - hopefully it's a total smackdown on the Pentagon's antics 😏.
 
I'm loving this turn of events 🀯! I mean, come on, trying to punish a senator for speaking out about something that matters? Not cool, Pentagon! πŸ˜’ I think it's awesome that Judge Leon is calling BS on the Justice Department's argument and questioning why they'd want to extend these limitations to retired service members too. It's all about protecting our rights as citizens, not just active-duty personnel. Mark Kelly's stance on free speech is totally justified, in my humble opinion πŸ’ͺ. Let's hope this judge rules in his favor and sets a precedent for future cases πŸ‘Š!
 
just wondering if the pentagon thinks it can just silence a senator who's speaking out against unlawful orders? πŸ€” i mean, isn't that kinda like them saying they're above the law or something?

anyway, the fact that the judge is questioning their actions shows some common sense. like, shouldn't we be protecting our soldiers' freedom to speak up when something's not right? it's crazy how this is even an issue in the first place.

im not gonna take sides yet, but i do know a lot of people are watching this closely and hoping for a fair outcome πŸ™
 
πŸ€” The Pentagon is getting roasted over trying to punish Sen. Mark Kelly for speaking out against something they didn't like... I'm not sure why they thought this was a good idea, but it's definitely a slippery slope if you start taking away pay grades from someone just because they expressed an opinion.

The judge seems pretty skeptical of the Pentagon's actions too πŸ™„, and that's good. Kelly's lawyers are arguing that this could be a huge precedent for silencing any kind of dissenting voice in the military, which would be super bad news.

I'm all for free speech, but I also get why the Pentagon might think they needed to take action... until someone speaks out, that is. It's like the old saying goes: "with great power comes great responsibility"... and it looks like the Pentagon needs a refresher course on that! 😊
 
πŸ€” This is so crazy what's going on with the Pentagon trying to punish a senator just for speaking out! πŸ™„ The fact that they're questioning Kelly's First Amendment right is like, totally not fair 🚫. I mean, who does the Defense Secretary think he is? πŸ˜‚ He needs to back off and let Kelly speak his mind without any repercussions πŸ’¬. And can you believe the Pentagon even tried to downgrade his pay grade? 😱 That's just ridiculous! The judge seems pretty wise in questioning this whole thing πŸ€“. I'm keeping an eye on this case, it'll be interesting to see how it plays out ⏰
 
omg can u believe this?? 🀯 like what even is going on with mark kellys speech tho? πŸ˜‚ i'm not saying i agree with him but come on, can't he just speak his mind without getting all up in arms from the pentagon?? πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ especially since he's a retired navy captain and all... i mean, what's next, they're gonna take away our right to free speech too? 😲 that would be literally crazy talk!! πŸ’β€β™€οΈ but for real tho, it's kinda cool that mark kelly's standing up for what he believes in even if it means going against the pentagon. πŸ™Œ fingers crossed he wins this case and gets his retirement pay grade back! πŸ’ͺ
 
omg u guys cant believe wat the pentagon is tryin to do!! 🀯 they wanna punish senator mark kelly for just speakin out against unlawful orders? its like they think hes a dissident or somethin πŸ˜‚ what even is goin on there? i mean, kelly's a retired navy captain and all, but he stil has his first amendment rights just like every1 else. and thats exactly whats happnin here - the pentagon's tryin to stifle free speech and chill the voices of every retired veteran who wants to speak up. i gotta give it to judge richard leon tho - hes all over the pentagons actions and im lovin it πŸ€œπŸ½πŸ‘Š
 
I'm so down with Sen. Mark Kelly standing up for our vets' rights πŸ™ŒπŸ½! I mean, can you imagine if someone in a higher authority came after me for speaking out against something? It's crazy that he's being targeted like this just because he's using his voice to protect the integrity of our military πŸ‘Š. The fact that the Pentagon is trying to punish him for doing what we all expect from elected officials, like defending democracy and human rights 🀝, is truly appalling.

It's awesome that Judge Leon is calling out the Justice Department's weak arguments πŸ’ͺ, and I'm loving the fact that Kelly has his back on this one πŸ‘«. Let's hope the judge rules in Kelly's favor by February 11, and we can all breathe a sigh of relief knowing our veterans' rights are being protected πŸ™.
 
I'm so worried about our veterans, especially when they speak out against something that goes against their values or morals. I think it's completely unacceptable for the Pentagon to try and punish Mark Kelly like this 🀯. As a parent, my child is taught to stand up for what they believe in and express themselves freely, just like Senator Kelly did. The fact that he's being singled out because of his public comments is alarming.

I'm glad the judge is questioning the Pentagon's actions and is taking this case seriously πŸ™. It's not about "undermining the chain of command" or "counseled disobedience", it's about a senator exercising his right to free speech and holding those in power accountable.

What if this sets a precedent for other veterans who might feel comfortable speaking out against something that goes against their conscience? I think we need to be supporting our veterans, not silencing them 🀝.
 
πŸ€” I'm loving this development - a federal judge questioning the Pentagon's actions against Sen. Mark Kelly? 🚫 It's crazy to think that just because someone is no longer active-duty, they can't express their opinions freely 😱. The numbers are on Kelly's side, btw - 65% of Americans agree that retired military personnel should have the same rights as active-duty officers πŸ“Š. And did you know that the First Amendment protects against speech limitations even among non-active duty members? 🀯 Like, what's next? 🚫
 
OMG u guys!!!!!! 🀯 this is like totally insane!!! so the pentagon is trying to punish Sen. Mark Kelly because he spoke out against something and now a federal judge is all like "hold up, did you really think you could just do that?" πŸ˜‚ i mean can u even imagine if they tried to do this to one of our veterans? it's like they're trying to stifle free speech or watever πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ the fact that the pentagon thought they could get away with it is wild lol but like seriously, the judge was totally right. it's not fair to just punish him because he spoke out, especially when it comes to something as important as our military members' rights πŸ‘Š
 
πŸ€” I can imagine how frustrating this situation must be for Sen. Mark Kelly πŸ€•. It sounds like he's just trying to do what he thinks is right, advocating for the well-being of those serving in the military πŸ’–. The fact that the Pentagon is pushing back and trying to punish him for it is really concerning 😬.

I'm glad that a federal judge is taking a closer look at this situation πŸ‘€. It's understandable that the Justice Department might want to argue that speech limitations should apply to everyone, but as Judge Leon pointed out, that's never been done before πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ. This case has big implications for free speech and the rights of military veterans everywhere πŸ’ͺ.

Kelly seems like a great guy who just wants to do what's best for his country πŸ‡ΊπŸš«. It's good to know that he's got some support and is hopeful about the outcome of this case 🀞. Fingers crossed for him! πŸ‘
 
omg, what's going on here? 🀯 so the Pentagon thinks they can punish a senator for speaking out against them? that's just not cool fam 😎 i mean, mark kelly is basically saying "hey, if you're gonna give me an order, make sure it's legit" and now he's getting censured? πŸ€” that doesn't sound like free speech to me... i think the judge has a point, too - the supreme court hasn't ever done this before, so why should they start now? πŸ’ͺ if anything, this is a great opportunity for the judge to make some noise about how important it is to protect our first amendment rights πŸ—£οΈ
 
idk why they're trying to punish mark kelly for speaking up like that πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ. i mean, isn't that what we want our leaders to do - challenge the status quo? this is just another example of the pentagon being super touchy about questioning authority πŸ™„. it's a slippery slope if they start targeting retired veterans too... what's next, punishing congress members for holding hearings on sensitive topics? 😬
 
OMG 🀯 this is so not right!!! 😑 I mean, can't they just let a senator speak out against something without trying to silence him? πŸ™„ Like, what's next? Censoring social media posts from politicians? That's just ridiculous! 🚫 And I'm all for free speech, but come on, this is a total overreach by the Pentagon. I get that Kelly was critical of the Trump admin, but so what? That doesn't mean he should be punished for it. 😀 It's like they're trying to intimidate him and chill people's free speech. This is exactly why we need to have checks and balances in place. The fact that a judge is questioning the Pentagon's actions makes me feel like justice might actually be served here 🀞 Fingers crossed this gets resolved soon! πŸ‘
 
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