'Repatriate the gold': German economists advise withdrawal from US vaults

Germany's Gold Hoard: A Risky Investment Under Trump?

As tensions between the US and Europe escalate under President Donald Trump, Germany is being urged to withdraw its vast gold reserves from US vaults. The country holds approximately €164 billion (£122 billion) worth of gold, the second-largest in the world after the US, with over 1,200 tonnes stored in New York.

Economists like Emanuel Mönch, a former head of research at Germany's federal bank, the Bundesbank, are warning that storing this amount of gold in the US is too risky given Trump's unpredictable nature. "Given the current geopolitical situation, it seems risky to store so much gold in the US," Mönch told the financial newspaper Handelsblatt. "In the interest of greater strategic independence from the US, the Bundesbank would therefore be well advised to consider repatriating the gold."

This sentiment is shared by Michael Jäger, head of the European Taxpayers Association and the Association of German Taxpayers, who believes that Trump's desire to generate revenue could pose a threat to the safety of Germany's gold reserves. "Trump is unpredictable and he does everything to generate revenue," Jäger said in an interview with the Rheinische Post. "What happens if the Greenland provocation continues? The risk is increasing that the German Bundesbank will no longer be able to access its gold. Therefore, it should repatriate its reserves."

The issue of Germany's gold reserves has gained traction beyond the far-right Alternative für Deutschland party, which has long advocated for the return of the gold. Even moderate voices within the Greens and Social Democratic parties are now speaking out in favour of relocation.

However, not everyone is convinced that withdrawing the gold would be a good idea. Clemens Fuest, president of the Institute for Economic Research (Ifo), warns that such a move could lead to unintended consequences and "only pour oil on the fire of the current situation."

Despite these concerns, Germany's total gold reserves are worth almost €450 billion, with over half held at the Bundesbank in Frankfurt am Main. The country has been auditing its gold supplies regularly, and the Bundesbank president, Joachim Nagel, recently assured that there is "no cause for concern" over the German gold held at the US Federal Reserve.

As Trump's rhetoric continues to harden towards his western partners, Germany is facing a difficult decision. Will it heed the warnings of economists and take steps to repatriate its gold reserves, or stick with the status quo? The answer will have significant implications for Germany's financial independence and its relationship with the US.
 
the germans are thinking of pulling their gold outta the us vaults 🤑🇺🇸 i mean can we blame em tho? trump is all about gettin that dough no matter what 💸 but germany wants to keep their gold safe and sound, ya feel me? it's like they're thinkin "hey, we got our own money, why do we need to store ours with some unpredictable dude" 🤔

and i gotta say, the fact that even moderate parties are gettin on board with this idea is pretty interesting 🤝 but at the same time, if germany pulls their gold out it could get all messy and diplomatic 🌪️ like trump's tweetstorm or something

anywayz, it's clear that germans wanna keep their gold close to home 💯 especially after all the drama with the greensland provocation 🤔 i mean who wouldn't wanna stick it to the man, right? 😂
 
🤔📈 I think Germany should be careful about storing so much gold in the US vaults 🏦💸. It's true that Trump's unpredictable nature could pose a risk to their gold reserves 💥, but it's also possible that they'll just have to deal with it 😐.

Let me draw a simple diagram to illustrate my point 📝

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| Germany's Gold Reserves |
+------------------------+
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| Store in US vaults
v
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| Risk of Trump's actions 💥
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| Risk of unintended consequences 🤔
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| Repatriate gold reserves
v
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| Reduce risk, but might be costly 💸

As you can see, there are pros and cons to both options 📊. On one hand, storing the gold in the US could provide a hedge against market fluctuations or economic instability 🌪️. On the other hand, repatriating the gold would give Germany more control over its financial assets and reduce its dependence on the US 🌎.

Ultimately, it's up to Germany to decide what's best for their economy and financial independence 💸👏
 
🤔 I'm surprised more ppl ain't questioning why they're still storing their gold in the States rn like what's the harm in bringin it back home? We got Trump doin' all these crazy things, who knows how he'll react to us takin our gold? 🤑 The Bundesbank is just tryin to protect themselves from potential losses, and honestly, I don't blame 'em. If Germany wants to be strategic about its gold reserves, repatriatin it would be a smart move in my opinion... 😏
 
I'm thinking that's a total waste of money 🤑 storing all that gold in some vaults in New York. I mean, what if Trump decides to sell it all or something? 😂 It's not like they can just take their money back or anything. And what about the risks of it getting stolen or lost? It's crazy that Germany is even considering this move. They should be more worried about investing in their own economy instead of keeping all its gold hidden away. 🤦‍♂️
 
🤔 I'm not sure about all this fuss over Germany's gold reserves...I mean, €164 billion is a lot of cash 💸, but at the end of the day it's just gold 🏹. What's the worst that could happen? The US decides to sell it and uses the money for, like, roads or something 🚗? I don't think so 😂. And on the other hand, if Germany does decide to repatriate its gold, what's the benefit there? Is it just going to sit in a vault collecting dust 💎? And what about all the audits and whatnot...I'm sure it's not that hard to keep track of a few million tonnes of gold 📊.

Can't Germany just take a chill pill and leave its gold where it is? 🙄 It's not like Trump's going to blow up the place or anything ⚡️. Or maybe I'm just being too laid back 😴...what do you guys think?!
 
I gotta say, storing all that cash in one place is just asking for trouble 🤑. Trump's unpredictable nature is not exactly reassuring. I mean, what if he decides to "reorganize" the vaults or something? It's not like Germany has a backup plan. And what about cybersecurity? What if someone hacks into the system and makes off with their gold? 🤔 I don't think it's worth the risk, personally. They should just keep it safe in Frankfurt, where they can at least monitor it more closely 💯.
 
I think it's kinda weird that everyone's so hyped about Germany pulling out their gold from the US... I mean, what's the worst that could happen? 🤑 Trump gets all mad and tries to confiscate it? Like, come on, it's just a bunch of metal at this point. And honestly, storing all that gold in one place is like playing with fire - if anything goes down, it's gonna be a major problem for everyone involved. Plus, Germany's got the brains and resources to handle any financial crisis that comes their way. Let's not get too worked up over some hypothetical scenario... 🤔
 
man this is getting crazy 🤯 germany has been storing all that gold in the us vaults like it's a safe haven but what if trump decides to take it all 😂 or worse, he gets aggressive and they can't access it anymore?

on the other hand i get where emmanuel mönch is coming from, as tensions between the US and europe escalate, germany needs to be more strategic about its assets. maybe repatriating some of that gold would be a good move, but it's also not like they're gonna just leave it all behind, that's a huge risk 🤝

i'm not sure what clemens fuest is talking about with the "pouring oil on the fire" thing, but i think germany should definitely consider its options here. the greens and social democrats are finally speaking out on this issue, maybe it's time for them to take a stand 💪
 
omg u guys i cant even believe whats going on with germany's gold hoard rn! 🤯 like they hold over 164 billion euros worth of gold in the us vaults and now everyone's freaking out about trump being unpredictable 🙅‍♂️ Emanuel Mönch is literally saying that storing that much gold in the us is too risky under trump's leadership and i can totes see why... i mean, who wants their country's gold reserves at risk? 💸

and then there's Michael Jäger saying that trump might want to use germany's gold as collateral for something 🤑 which is just soooo not okay. what if the germans dont agree with whatever trump comes up with and they lose access to their own gold? 😱 its like, come on guys! why are you even considering keeping your gold in the us when trump is making all these crazy moves?

and then there's Clemens Fuest saying that taking out the gold could have unintended consequences 🤔 but honestly i think its better to be safe than sorry. germany should be like "you know what, trump? we're gonna take our gold back and not look back" 💪

i mean, im not even a political expert or anything but it seems to me that germany is just trying to assert their independence from the us under trump's leadership 🤝 its all about being strategic and not wanting to be caught off guard. i think its the right move for them tbh 💁‍♀️
 
idk why germany wouldnt just pull out already lol 🤑 they're basically throwing away their cash storing it in the us under trump 😒 he's got a track record of doing random stuff that's, like, super unpredictable...like that time he tweeted about getting sick from pizza 🤢 anyway, repatriating the gold is probably for the best. germany should be prioritizing its own interests and not just following the US around 👊 it's not like they're gonna get any special treatment or anything 💸
 
I think its kinda cool that Germany's got so much gold stored in the US vaults 🤑💰 but at the same time, i can see why some people would be worried about Trump's unpredictable nature 😬. Like, what if he decides to use it for something else? 🤔 It's not like they're gonna get their money back or anything 💸. But on the other hand, having all that gold just sitting there might not be the best idea either 💣. I guess its all about weighing the risks and the pros and cons 📊👀. Maybe Germany should just keep an eye on things and be prepared for whatever happens? ⏰.
 
😊 I was just thinking about this weird dream I had last night where I was a baker and I had to make 1000 croissants in one hour 🥐😂 anyway back to this news, it seems like the whole world is freaking out over Trump's tweets again, like what's the big deal? Can't he just tweet something nice for once? 😂 and have you ever noticed how when people talk about investing in gold they always use those fancy words like "strategic independence" 🤔 I mean I get it, but can't we just say "we want our gold back, period"? 💸
 
Trump's erratic behavior 🤯 could lead to some unexpected moves. I'd rather see Germany diversify its assets anyway 💸. The EU is already dealing with economic instability, they need a safety net 🌎.
 
🤔 I gotta say, storing all that gold in the US under Trump is a major risk 💸. I mean, who knows what he'll do next? 😱 The idea of him trying to make some cash off Germany's gold reserves doesn't sit well with me either 🤑. It's like, don't they have enough problems with his protectionism and trade wars already? 🤦‍♂️

I think it's smart of the Bundesbank to be thinking about repatriating their gold, especially if it means maintaining some level of control over Germany's financial assets 💰. And I get why they'd want to diversify their investments too - you never know what might happen in geopolitics 🌎.

But at the same time, I can see why some people would think that taking out the gold could just add fuel to the fire 🔥. If Germany were to pull out of US vaults, it could get complicated with trade and diplomatic relations 😬. It's a tough call, but I think Germany needs to weigh their options carefully and maybe consider diversifying their investments across multiple countries 🌈.

It's not just about the gold itself - it's about the bigger picture of Germany's economic independence and its relationship with the US 💪. Whatever they decide, I hope it's something that keeps Germany safe and secure in the long run 😊
 
I mean, I get why they're worried about Trump being all unpredictable with their gold 🤔. But 164 billion euros is a lot of cash! It's not like they can just pull it out and say "oh, we'll be fine". And what if Germany does repatriate the gold? Won't that make them even more dependent on their own central bank? I don't know, I think it's a risk worth taking. They should at least try to diversify their portfolio 📈. The US is not exactly known for its stability right now. And what about the precedent? If Germany starts pulling out, others might follow suit. It's a big decision, but I think they should consider all their options before making one 💸
 
I'm low-key worried about Germany storing so much gold in the US vaults 🤑. I mean, Trump's been making some pretty weird moves lately, and it's hard to predict what he'll do next 😬. If Germany were to lose access to their gold reserves, it could be a major financial blow 💸. And let's be real, €164 billion is a lot of cash 🤯. I think the Bundesbank should take Emanuel Mönch's advice and start making plans to repatriate their gold 🚢. It's not just about safety, but also about having more control over their financial future 🌎. Clemens Fuest might be right that there are unintended consequences, but I think it's better to err on the side of caution 🤔.
 
I think germany should just leave the gold in the us vaults lol, I mean, it's not like trump is gonna come after them or anything 🤑🇺🇸 but seriously, €164 billion is a huge chunk of change, and if germany pulls it out now, they might face some serious market volatility. plus, the bundesbank has been auditing their gold supplies regularly, so I think there's less reason to be worried about safety and security 🕵️‍♀️
 
🤔 the idea that trump is too unpredictable to store us gold in his vaults seems pretty reasonable to me 🤑 i mean, what if he decides to trade our gold for something else? or worse, take it back as debt? 🤯 germany has been holding onto its gold reserves for ages and now they're considering withdrawing them just because of trump's behavior 🙄 it might be a good idea to diversify their assets and reduce their dependence on the us
 
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