Detroit council member proposes ban on masked law enforcement officers - Detroit Metro Times

Detroit City Councilwoman Mary Waters has proposed a law aimed at preventing law enforcement officers in the city from wearing masks or facial coverings that conceal their identities while carrying out their duties. The proposal, dubbed the "Alex Pretti Detroit No Masks Ordinance," is intended to increase transparency and accountability among law enforcement.

Waters cited the recent fatal shooting of Alex Pretti, a citizen who was filming immigration enforcement in Minneapolis, as the inspiration for her proposal. Pretti's death sparked widespread outrage, and Waters wants to honor his memory by ensuring that officers are identifiable while enforcing the law.

Under the proposed ordinance, any local, state, or federal law enforcement personnel would be prohibited from wearing masks or other facial coverings during their duties in Detroit. The goal is to enable the public to identify individuals engaging in law enforcement activities within the city, which is seen as essential for preventing abuse of power and promoting trust.

The proposal comes amid growing national criticism of federal immigration agents' practice of wearing masks during enforcement actions. Critics argue that this tactic makes it difficult for the public to verify who is conducting arrests and hold officers accountable.

While Detroit would not be the first city to ban law enforcement from wearing masks, Waters' ordinance is part of a larger trend of cities taking action against what they see as a threat to transparency and accountability in policing.

Los Angeles County and Philadelphia have recently approved similar ordinances requiring law enforcement officers to show their faces and display identifying information while performing duties. Denver city council members have proposed an ordinance that would prohibit officers from concealing their identities during interrogations, detentions, or arrests.

However, experts warn that local efforts to regulate federal immigration agents may face constitutional challenges under the Supremacy Clause. As a result, it remains unclear whether local mask bans would effectively prevent federal agents from acting with impunity.

Waters' ordinance must be approved by the Detroit City Council before it can take effect. If adopted, the city law department would determine how violations are enforced, ensuring that law enforcement in Detroit is transparent and accountable to its citizens.
 
๐Ÿค” I gotta say, this whole mask thing is kinda weird. Like, what's the point of hiding your face when you're supposed to be serving and protecting? But at the same time, I get where Waters is coming from - transparency is key, right? It's like, if you're doing something wrong, people should be able to see who's behind it.

And I gotta admit, it's a little concerning that federal agents can just wear masks wherever they want. I mean, shouldn't we know who's enforcing the law on our turf? But at the same time, I don't wanna get into all that politics... maybe this whole thing will just make things more complicated? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ
 
I'm low-key worried about this one ๐Ÿค”. I mean, I get what Alex Pretti's death was all about - transparency is key, right? But let's not forget that these officers are already trained to be intimidating enough without adding a mask to the mix ๐Ÿ˜’. And what happens when they're hiding their faces and still breaking the law? It just seems like more of the same old game ๐Ÿ™„.

And can we talk about the feds for a sec? They're always trying to circumvent local laws with their Supremacy Clause nonsense ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ. If Detroit passes this ordinance, are they really gonna shut it down just because it's not federal law? It feels like they'd rather have our backs than just try to cover their own behinds ๐Ÿ‘Š.

I'm all for accountability and transparency, but we need a more nuanced approach here ๐Ÿ’ก. Maybe instead of banning masks altogether, we should focus on building trust with communities through community policing and de-escalation training ๐Ÿค. Just a thought ๐Ÿ˜Š
 
idk about this new law in detroit... i mean, i get where mary waters is coming from with alex pretti's death and all but wearing a mask shouldnt make anyone a bad cop, right? its not like they're hiding their faces for the sake of causing trouble. plus, whats next? banning uniforms or something?

i remember when i was in college, we had this friend who wore these awesome masks to protests to keep his face protected from pepper spray and tear gas... it made total sense back then. now its like hes some kinda villain or somethin'. dont get me wrong, transparency is key but taking away a simple piece of gear from law enforcement seems excessive

i guess what im sayin is, if the goal is to increase trust between cops and citizens, maybe there should be more focus on community policing and building relationships rather than just stripping them of their anonymity.
 
๐Ÿ’ก I think it's about time someone took a stand on this issue ๐Ÿ™Œ, especially after all those incidents of police brutality where the officers were trying to cover their tracks. It's not like they're doing anything wrong by wearing masks, but it's just common sense that we should be able to know who's behind the badge ๐Ÿ”. I mean, what if a cop is actually corrupt or hiding something? You'd never know unless they're required to show their face ๐Ÿ‘ฎโ€โ™‚๏ธ. And let's be real, transparency is key in law enforcement ๐Ÿค. I'm all for it, as long as there are consequences for breaking the rules ๐Ÿš”.
 
I think this is a super positive move for transparency and accountability in policing ๐Ÿ™Œ! I mean, who doesn't want to know who's behind the mask, right? ๐Ÿ˜‚ It's all about trust and making sure our law enforcement officers are doing what they're supposed to do - serve and protect us. And hey, it's not like this is going to make them more aggressive or anything (though that's a valid concern too). I think it's actually a great idea to have some accountability in place, especially with all the high-profile cases of misconduct happening everywhere. Plus, think about how much easier it'll be for our communities to report any suspicious activity if they can see who's doing what! ๐Ÿ’ก
 
๐Ÿค” I gotta say, this Alex Pretti thing is really messed up ๐Ÿšซ. I mean, who wants a cop in a mask filming people? Sounds like some kind of conspiracy theory movie ๐ŸŽฅ. But at the same time, it's hard not to see where Mary Waters is coming from. I guess the idea of being able to identify cops on camera is a good one ๐Ÿ‘ฎโ€โ™‚๏ธ.

It's just weird that the feds are doing this in the first place ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ. I don't get why they need to hide their faces ๐ŸŽญ. But hey, if it makes people feel safer or more comfortable around law enforcement, then I'm all for it ๐Ÿ˜Š. The problem is, what happens when these laws start getting challenged in court? ๐Ÿ’”

I think it's cool that cities like LA and Philly are taking the lead on this one ๐ŸŒ†. It's about time we see some transparency in our police departments ๐Ÿ‘€. But we gotta be careful not to overstep our bounds, you know? โš ๏ธ We don't wanna create more problems than we solve ๐Ÿ’ฅ.

I guess only time will tell if this law makes a difference ๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธ. I just hope it doesn't lead to any more unnecessary confrontations between cops and citizens ๐Ÿ˜ฌ.
 
๐Ÿค” I think it's kinda cool that Mary Waters is tryna bring about some change in Detroit, ya know? Like, she's all about honoring Alex Pretti's memory by making sure cops are transparent, which is a pretty legit reason. But at the same time, I'm not so sure if this ordinance is gonna fly. I mean, aren't there already laws against federal agents doin' shady stuff? And what's to stop them from just flappin' their flags or somethin'? ๐Ÿšจ It seems like a good idea on paper, but I don't know... might be some major hurdles down the line. Still, it's an interesting conversation starter, and I'm all for lookin' out for each other in the community ๐Ÿ’•
 
idk about this one ๐Ÿค”... on one hand, it's super reasonable to want transparency & accountability in policing, especially after cases like Alex Pretti ๐Ÿ•Š๏ธ... but at the same time, i feel like we're kinda forcing a solution without fully thinking through the implications ๐Ÿคฏ... federal agents wear masks 4 security reasons, and now detroit wants 2 take away that option? ๐Ÿšซ what's gonna happen when they just ignore the law instead of being transparent ๐Ÿš”?... not sure if this ordinance is really gonna make things better ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ
 
I'm not sure if I totally agree with this new proposed law in Detroit... ๐Ÿค” I mean, I get why Mary Waters wants to increase transparency and accountability, but what's the point of knowing who's behind a mask? It's not like it's gonna make a huge difference in preventing abuse of power or promoting trust. And what about situations where someone's life is literally at risk because they're filming or witnessing something that's not right? Do we really want to make it harder for people to call out bad cops?

Plus, I've seen videos of protests and riots where some people are wearing masks for their own protection... ๐Ÿšซ does the city really need to know who's behind a mask just to serve them a warning or something? It seems like they're trying to police (pun intended) how people express themselves.
 
I'm thinkin', what's the big deal about masks? It's like, officers wear 'em for protection from harm or somethin'... And now they're out sayin' "Hey, we're here to help" but really they're just hiding behind a mask? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ I get where Waters is comin' from with Alex Pretti and all, but can't we just have a little more nuance on this one? It's like, what if there's some crazy situation where someone's gotta hide their face for real reasons? ๐Ÿค”
 
I think this idea of banning masks from cops in Detroit is a good start ๐Ÿค”. We need to know who's behind the badge and ensure they're not just sweeping up innocent people. It's a bit ironic that we're worried about police accountability now, considering all the scandals and abuse of power over the years. I mean, if a random citizen like Alex Pretti gets killed by cops while trying to do his job, shouldn't we be questioning why our law enforcement is hiding behind masks? It's not just about transparency; it's also about holding them accountable for their actions. If we can't trust our cops, how can we expect them to protect and serve us? I'm all for making sure they're visible and identifiable during duty hours. Maybe this will be a step towards reforming the whole policing system in America ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ
 
I'm low-key super down on this new law being proposed ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿ’ฏ I get where Mary Waters is coming from, but I think it's kinda extreme ๐Ÿ˜ I mean, what if someone's just trying to keep their identity private for whatever reason? Like, maybe they're a whistleblower or something? ๐Ÿคซ Shouldn't we be giving people the freedom to choose how much info they want to share? I'm not saying law enforcement needs to be more transparent, but like...balance, right? ๐Ÿค What if this sets a precedent and other cities try to do the same thing? I feel like it's already getting pretty complicated with all these mask bans ๐Ÿ™„
 
omg i cant believe watres got inspired 2 do this after alex pretti's tragic death ๐Ÿค•๐Ÿ˜ก now detroit might be the first city 2 ban masks on cops ๐Ÿšจ๐Ÿ’ช but what about all the other cities like la & philly who r already doin the same thing? ๐Ÿค”๐Ÿ‘€ i just hope watres ordinance makes a diff & dont get challenged in court ๐Ÿคž๐Ÿฝ
 
I THINK ITS A GREAT IDEA TO HAVE MORE TRANSPARENCY IN OUR POLICE FORCE ๐Ÿค๐Ÿฝ! IF WE CAN SEE WHO'S DOING THE ENFORCEMENT, WE CAN BE SURE THEY'RE NOT JUST MAKING UP STUFF LIKE SOMETHING OUT OF A MOVIE ๐ŸŽฅ. IT WOULD BE SO MUCH BETTER FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND TRUST BETWEEN CIVILIAN AND POLICE. PLUS, WITH ALL THE NEW TECHNOLOGY AVAILABLE NOW, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND EASY WAYS TO IDIFY OFFICERS WITHOUT INFRINGING ON THEIR RIGHT TO REMAIN ANONYMOUS ๐Ÿ“ฑ.
 
๐Ÿค” The more I think about this, the more I'm like, what's good with all these mask bans? ๐Ÿ™„ Like, isn't it a person's right to protect themselves from, you know, unknown folks? ๐Ÿ˜… And then there's the whole "increasing transparency and accountability" thing... don't we already have laws in place for that? ๐Ÿ’ฏ I get why Alex Pretti's death was super concerning, but can't we just look into ways to improve policing practices instead of banning masks all together? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ Maybe some sort of compromise, like having a system where officers wear masks during enforcement actions, but also have a way for the public to ID them if they need to? ๐Ÿ’ก Just a thought... ๐Ÿ‘€
 
omg this is soooo cool!!! ๐Ÿคฉ I'm literally hyped for this ordinance to pass!! Mary Waters is literally a hero for advocating for transparency & accountability in policing ๐Ÿ™Œ. The idea of knowing who's behind the mask (no pun intended) is just so refreshing! ๐Ÿ‘ฎโ€โ™€๏ธ I mean, think about it, if you can see the cop's face, you know they're not trying to hide anything ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ. It's all about trust & keeping our communities safe ๐Ÿ’•. Can't wait for this ordinance to be approved in Detroit & hopefully other cities follow suit ๐ŸŽ‰!
 
I don't know about you but I'm all for increased transparency in law enforcement ๐Ÿค”. The recent Alex Pretti incident was a wake-up call and it's heartbreaking that he lost his life. I mean, who needs a mask to hide behind? It's like they're trying to be superheroes or something ๐Ÿฆธโ€โ™‚๏ธ. Seriously though, if we want to hold our law enforcement officers accountable, we need to know who they are and what they're doing. Waters' proposal might not be perfect, but it's a start.

It's crazy how many cities are taking action against this mask thing, like Los Angeles and Philly have already done ๐Ÿค. And now Detroit is joining the party. I'm all for it too... as long as it doesn't become a major hassle for them to enforce ๐Ÿ™„. The Supremacy Clause thingy does seem like a roadblock though. Let's hope they can figure it out.

One thing that gets me, though, is how this whole thing has become more popular now that it's about the feds and immigration agents ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ. It's not just about cops wearing masks anymore; it's about accountability across the board. We need to make sure our law enforcement officers are held to a higher standard, no matter what they're enforcing.

Oh, and can we please just get some better technology for video recording police interactions? Like, have you seen those tiny cameras on their badges? They look like they belong in Star Wars ๐Ÿš€. We deserve better, folks!
 
omg I just thought about this... what if ppl wear masks cuz theyre scared or worried for their safety? like, what if theyre being harassed by someone and need a sec to hide their face ๐Ÿค”? can't we jus focus on makin sure cops r doin their job w/o bein all secretive & stuff? dont get me wrong, I feel 4 Alex Pretti & all, but is it really necessary 2 make them wear masks everywhere? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ also, what if ppl in masks r just tryna stay warm or protect themselves from the sun? I mean, can't we jus chill a lil more about this ๐ŸŒž๐Ÿ’ก
 
I mean, I guess it's about time we start getting some transparency from our so-called "law enforcement" agencies ๐Ÿ™„. I'm all for accountability, but aren't we already seeing some pretty shady stuff go down? Like, what if the masks are just a way to intimidate people of color or... you know, cover up some actual crimes ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ.

I'm not saying Waters' proposal is a bad idea, per se. It's just that, with all these other cities jumping on the bandwagon, it feels like we're just trying to paper over some deeper issues ๐Ÿ˜’. And let's be real, has anyone actually seen any concrete evidence of officers abusing their power? Like, are we just going to trust our local councilwoman's gut feeling on this one? ๐Ÿค”

Oh, and what's up with the Supremacy Clause being thrown around like a magic wand ๐ŸŽฉ? It sounds like some fancy lawyer stuff, but honestly, can't we just focus on making sure our cops are doing their jobs without, you know, killing innocent people or harassing minority groups? ๐Ÿ’โ€โ™€๏ธ
 
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